[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Ahh yes, the fictional world of opportunity we live in eh.

I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that people shouldn't bother trying to do better because opportunity is fictional? If you want to do better, you will. If you don't, you won't. That's been my experience. But one thing's for sure, nothing's going to fall into your lap and sometimes you have to give up things to gain things.

Some people are happy bobbing along the bottom. Good for them.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying that people shouldn't bother trying to do better because opportunity is fictional? If you want to do better, you will. If you don't, you won't. That's been my experience. But one thing's for sure, nothing's going to fall into your lap and sometimes you have to give up things to gain things.

Some people are happy bobbing along the bottom. Good for them.

No I'm saying exactly what I said: that there's more to it, and that the premise of this thread is dodgy.

Yes, this guy worked there at 17... while living with and being funded by his parents and having the opportunity to attain a Masters Degree from University which allowed him to leapfrog the corporate ladder into higher level management where he advanced to CEO.

Let's say there's another guy who started with him at 17. His parents aren't interested in him and kick him out at 18 and he needs every cent of his shelf-stacking wage to pay his rent and buy food. Realistically... is THAT guy getting attending University and getting a Masters? How would that even be feasible? Where does the money come from? Where does the TIME come from for a person who has to be working long hours in a **** job just to survive?

The reality is that true rags-to-riches stories are very rare and you'll find the roots of most of them in dumb luck. This fellow in the OP is not a rags-to-riches story. There are no rags here.