[Gusto Brunt]

I have never understood the hate for Jack.

I have to admit, he has never annoyed me, and in fact he often makes me laugh.

Who cares if he wants - or expected - to win. They all wanna win. Who wouldn't want £150,000???????

Don't buy that **** that they're in there for personal development and to make friends. That is just ****.

So Jack's overweight - no reason not to like him.

He has mood swings - but they've never been nasty like Danny the Coward.

He's been arrogant sometimes - no more than any of the others.

So, please, can someone, please list the reasons why so many people don't like Jack and want him out.

Thanks.

[Vicky.]

No idea tbh. I don't actually mind him. I find the mindset that some seem to have of 'oh he is desperate to win, lets devastate him' really rather cruel too

[Pete.]

He's not entertaining :/

[bots]

He makes me laugh, I see him as a young lad that is a bit petulant, but is entertaining without meaning to be. For me that's much better than the usual contrived rubbish

[Northern Monkey]

I used to like him but i went off him and i honestly could'nt tell you why.I don't hate him,There are moments where i smile whilst watching him but idk,His moody face just puts me off i think.

[Black Dagger]

He's a moody, creepy bore who reeks of desperation.

[Gusto Brunt]

Thanks for the feedback.

Seems there is no 'hate', and a few who think Jack's not all that bad.

[karezza]

It's because he's fat. It's fatism. It's fatphobia.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by karezza

It's because he's fat. It's fatism. It's fatphobia.

No.I've got loads of fat mates.I have no hate for fat people.

[Mick]

I still enjoy watching him sure he has a grumpty side but I find this funny.I think his downfall started after he went OTT when nominated by Simon.

[MrWong]

Most of the nastier comments are about his weight.

Projection perhaps.

[arista]

Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_

He's a moody, creepy bore who reeks of desperation.

Bang On Right


LucasMichael
Get Jack Out

[smudgie]

Can't see any reason to hate hm.
Yes he is grumpy, he moans a bit, he is a bit bossy at times, but at least he is portraying his true self. Not fussed on his language at times.
I find him one of the funnier housemates, nothing contrived, just his blundering his way through the experience.

[Griffin5779]

he comes across as a self entitle grumpy angry t**t who does little..bosses people around ... holds a grudge and requires different standards of behavior from people depending on how well he likes or dislikes them

[DemolitionRed]

Hates a strong emotion...I don't hate Jack; I don't even dislike Jack. I just find him a bit boring and immature, though I can forgive his immaturity because of his age.

I wouldn't want Jack to win but it would be a great shame if he came out of the house to boos. Being boring doesn't warrant him being demonized.

[Ashley.]

I just don't get the point of him. Why is he working in McDonald's? That's what concerns me the most - he doesn't seem to want to do things in life. There's nothing stopping him getting a few A Level's down and heading off to University.

I definitely don't hate him for being fat, like most would suggest. I blame his parents for that matter.

[Jack_]

It's all rather pathetic. People assumed on the way in he would be the Mr Nice Guy series bore and hated him for that, which I understood, but then it emerged that he is anything but and in fact his pathetic aggressive outbursts are actually quite hilarious, and he is still hated.

The poor kid can't win either way and I am honestly convinced deep down it's because he's fat. The fact of the matter is he's a much better housemate than what he could have ended up being and for that he needs to be applauded

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's all rather pathetic.

So people are "pathetic" for holding a view that you happen not to?

To be quite honest, I'd love for a series where insults towards other forum members on the basis of their opinions isn't the norm. I won't hold my breath, though.

Originally Posted by Jack_

The poor kid can't win either way and I am honestly convinced deep down it's because he's fat. The fact of the matter is he's a much better housemate than what he could have ended up being and for that he needs to be applauded

There are definitely some people who bring his weight into it, but that's certainly not the sole reason for the dislike of him. I can say that with absolute certainty because he's my least favourite and his weight has nothing to do with that.

I dislike him because his tendency to be miserable and moody pisses me off, as does his, frankly, nasty attitude that rears it's head when people dare to nominate him. Then there's his role in the unbearably smug Not-So Fantastic Four (and yes, the other members of that little gang annoy me too).

I just think he's a crap housemate and I get zero enjoyment out of him, and it's a fairly weak response to fall back on the "Oh, it's only because he's overweight" thing. No, it's not. You clearly think he's a good housemate, but that's just your opinion (as opposed to the "fact" you presented it as). Some others quite obviously feel differently and are entitled to do so without being branded "pathetic" or the suggestion that they're prejudiced against his weight.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's all rather pathetic. People assumed on the way in he would be the Mr Nice Guy series bore and hated him for that, which I understood, but then it emerged that he is anything but and in fact his pathetic aggressive outbursts are actually quite hilarious, and he is still hated.

The poor kid can't win either way and I am honestly convinced deep down it's because he's fat. The fact of the matter is he's a much better housemate than what he could have ended up being and for that he needs to be applauded

I hate him because you like him.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

So people are "pathetic" for holding a view that you happen not to?

To be quite honest, I'd love for a series where insults towards other forum members on the basis of their opinions isn't the norm. I won't hold my breath, though.



There are definitely some people who bring his weight into it, but that's certainly not the sole reason for the dislike of him. I can say that with absolute certainty because he's my least favourite and his weight has nothing to do with that.

I dislike him because his tendency to be miserable and moody pisses me off, as does his, frankly, nasty attitude that rears it's head when people dare to nominate him. Then there's his role in the unbearably smug Not-So Fantastic Four (and yes, the other members of that little gang annoy me too).

I just think he's a crap housemate and I get zero enjoyment out of him, and it's a fairly weak response to fall back on the "Oh, it's only because he's overweight" thing. No, it's not. You clearly think he's a good housemate, but that's just your opinion (as opposed to the "fact" you presented it as). Some others quite obviously feel differently and are entitled to do so without being branded "pathetic" or the suggestion that they're prejudiced against his weight.

Perfectly put

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

So people are "pathetic" for holding a view that you happen not to?

To be quite honest, I'd love for a series where insults towards other forum members on the basis of their opinions isn't the norm. I won't hold my breath, though.



There are definitely some people who bring his weight into it, but that's certainly not the sole reason for the dislike of him. I can say that with absolute certainty because he's my least favourite and his weight has nothing to do with that.

I dislike him because his tendency to be miserable and moody pisses me off, as does his, frankly, nasty attitude that rears it's head when people dare to nominate him. Then there's his role in the unbearably smug Not-So Fantastic Four (and yes, the other members of that little gang annoy me too).

I just think he's a crap housemate and I get zero enjoyment out of him, and it's a fairly weak response to fall back on the "Oh, it's only because he's overweight" thing. No, it's not. You clearly think he's a good housemate, but that's just your opinion (as opposed to the "fact" you presented it as). Some others quite obviously feel differently and are entitled to do so without being branded "pathetic" or the suggestion that they're prejudiced against his weight.

I actually genuinely wasn't insulting any other forum members, I think the hate is receives is over the top, unjustified and ultimately, pathetic.

There may be some people who dislike him for the way he acts, and that is fine, what I'm addressing here is a collective shift (or rather actually, non shift) in attitudes towards him. The majority of people on this forum on launch night and in the first few days took a disliking towards him because it was assumed (and understandably so) that he would be the Mr Nice Guy that floated through to the final and didn't offer a lot to the show, and would be popular outside of these parts amongst the general public because of it. Then when it transpired that actually that wasn't to be the case, the same majority continued to hate on him. Therefore the poor kid can't win either way can he? Either he plays the nice guy we all assumed he would be and he'd be hated, or he acts normally as he is doing now and he's still hated. Quite frankly I think the only reason for that is for the most part because he is fat. Sure, not everyone will think that, but I think subconsciously that definitely plays a role or else why could he not win either way?

Originally Posted by sampvt

I hate him because you like him.

I was beginning to wonder whether this entire series would pass without us having made digs at one another, but alas it seems that's not what you want.

I'm glad I have that much of an impact on you

[Amy Jade]

I think some people dislike him because he's overweight.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I actually genuinely wasn't insulting any other forum members, I think the hate is receives is over the top, unjustified and ultimately, pathetic.

There may be some people who dislike him for the way he acts, and that is fine, what I'm addressing here is a collective shift (or rather actually, non shift) in attitudes towards him. The majority of people on this forum on launch night and in the first few days took a disliking towards him because it was assumed (and understandably so) that he would be the Mr Nice Guy that floated through to the final and didn't offer a lot to the show, and would be popular outside of these parts amongst the general public because of it. Then when it transpired that actually that wasn't to be the case, the same majority continued to hate on him. Therefore the poor kid can't win either way can he? Either he plays the nice guy we all assumed he would be and he'd be hated, or he acts normally as he is doing now and he's still hated. Quite frankly I think the only reason for that is for the most part because he is fat. Sure, not everyone will think that, but I think subconsciously that definitely plays a role or else why could he not win either way?

Fair enough, I assumed you were generalising all people who have an issue with Jack, apologies if I misunderstood.

And you do raise a good point about him being between a rock and a hard place, I do agree that there are some people who were always going to dislike him regardless.

[Tarryn]

I kind of feel sorry for him. I think if the house this series had been more fun then the likes of Jack, Sam & Simon would have been seen in a different light.
I understand Jack can be bitchy & grumpy but no more than anyone else in that house.
I find him quite immature but that's about it.
Yes, he should have taken the car but at that time he was perceived as the favourite to win, so it was sensible to stay in there.
I just don't get why he is hated so much

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Most of the nastier comments are about his weight.

Projection perhaps.

I'm inclined to agree with Mr Wong here which is a lame reason for all the Jack hate and IMO shows up the hater. I like Jack and I feel sorry for him. I don't think he's arrogant, he always seemed rather bemused/thrilled by the taste of popularity he had. Sure he has faults and he bitches a bit, who doesnt?

He does get a bit hurt by nominations but then thats understandable no one wants to feel that people around them don't like them. Harry and Marc both say they don't care then she goes into a strop and verbally beats up Nick and Maec has to analise every aspect of reasons given. Fact is the reasons are the persons own, its not for Marc to say whether they are valid or not.

I don't think he will win now but I much rather see him win than a lot of the others.
I did like Joel but I'm going off him a bit with how far he was up Helen and I didn't like the smug smile when Mcquirrick (sp?) Told Him he was a star and praised him for being a Tory.