[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by BENDERBOY

Oh i was, i just don't support the same tool that you do.

So which tool do you support?

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by mimosveta

so now even not being a prostitute is a bad thing?



no wonder you're a marc fan.

Clearly you misunderstood wha i was getting st so i'Il let you figure it out.

And this threads about Aisylene not Helen so try again and I'll be a fan of what I want.

I don't support cheap hypocrites who outstayed their welcome ten yrs ago.

[RodHull]

Its funny how anti Helen crowd go on about tolerance and bullying and blah blah bore off then love to pull the 'she was a prostitute' stick out to beat her with

When she herself admits it was a terrible life choice and one she doesnt do anymore. The irony is lost on them it seems.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Miss Nicole

Yay and here we are watching clear EXAMPLES!

What an idiot.

Yep, he was being his usual obnoxious self trying to goad people into snapping. Alas, some of them are stupid enough to give him what he wants despite McCrirrick warning them not to.

Let's hope the manipulative little creep goes on Friday. It wasn't a good show for someone who is up for eviction, even if it wasn't a good show for Aisleyne/Danny (neither of whom I like). Thankfully Jack barely featured.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by RodHull

No it was not all in the same flow he said you have issues a little bit after, and tbf she does she just randomly went off saying 'you better not be talking about me' (which is itself a kind of threat) when he wasnt

If she thought he was then she does have issues cause he was talking about Joel cause the the two of them argued but he couldnt speak to Joel about it cause of the task.

She's desperate to say something to him. Marc better be careful she has Wikipedia.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Its funny how anti Helen crowd go on about tolerance and bullying and blah blah bore off then love to pull the 'she was a prostitute' stick out to beat her with

When she herself admits it was a terrible life choice and one she doesnt do anymore. The irony is lost on them it seems.

Aisleyne did escorting too didn't she?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Its funny how anti Helen crowd go on about tolerance and bullying and blah blah bore off then love to pull the 'she was a prostitute' stick out to beat her with

When she herself admits it was a terrible life choice and one she doesnt do anymore. The irony is lost on them it seems.

Why don't you talk about housemates and not forum members?

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Why don't you talk about housemates and not forum members?

Like you randomly brought Helen up which is not the thread topic.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Yep, he was being his usual obnoxious self trying to goad people into snapping. Alas, some of them are stupid enough to give him what he wants despite McCrirrick warning them not to.

Let's hope the manipulative little creep goes on Friday. It wasn't a good show for someone who is up for eviction, even if it wasn't a good show for Aisleyne/Danny (neither of whom I like). Thankfully Jack barely featured.

I think the show was great for marc. I think you underestimate his (and helen's) fanbase.

They will vote like mad to get jack out.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Its funny how anti Helen crowd go on about tolerance and bullying and blah blah bore off then love to pull the 'she was a prostitute' stick out to beat her with

When she herself admits it was a terrible life choice and one she doesnt do anymore. The irony is lost on them it seems.

Well said.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I think the show was great for marc. I think you underestimate his (and helen's) fanbase.

They will vote like mad to get jack out.

The best show for someone up for eviction is to disappear into the background. Jack was barely featured tonight and Marc, though he will have reinforced his support, just reminded everyone else what a manipulative smug tosspot he is. I've actually voted for an eviction for the first time since I can remember. I usually only ever vote in the final, if at all. (I voted for Ashleigh to win last year)

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Why don't you talk about housemates and not forum members?

When you think of a relevant response get back to me...

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

Like you randomly brought Helen up which is not the thread topic.

Helen is a housemate

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

The best show for someone up for eviction is to disappear into the background. Jack was barely featured tonight and Marc, though he will have reinforced his support, just reminded everyone else was a manipulative smug tosspot he is. I've actually voted for an eviction for the first time since I can remember. I usually only ever vote in the final, if at all. (I voted for Ashleigh to win last year)

Harry is coming over far worse than Marc. And she was shown a lot tonight being a complete cow.

The bullying of marc is now getting him the sympathy vote. There is no way that he will go on friday.

[mimosveta]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

But you don't. That's the thing. He wound her up after she came for him. He never said he didn't say anything to Brian only that Brian came for him and he responded. Aisleyne came for Marc. She was gunning for him all day. Yes he antagonised her. Yes he said mean things but, to go to schoolyard rules, she started it. He didn't engage with her, she engaged with him.

Actually, in most cases it was Brian insisting Helen leave third party alone, yes, shouting that Helen leave third party alone, and then Marc would join in sided with Helen, attacking Brian. After the fact he'd say he never attacked Brian first, which is all sorts of gray zone, cause it seems to suggest that it's wrong for Brian to stand up for other hms, but it's right for Marc to stand up for Helen and to pretend Brian was attacking him. And also, after such incidents, Marc would warp the reasons Brian was upset calling him a liar. Like how Marc claim Brian was acting as if he didn't want to nominate Chloe, when in fact Brian didn't want Chloe to be humiliated further when already crying. And then he goes on claiming how Brian lied about him which is another level of lying, it's fracking lying inception.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Helen is a housemate

The thread topic is Marc not Helen. Please read.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Aisleyne did escorting too didn't she?

I hear she did. She's also a media *****.

[mimosveta]

Originally Posted by RodHull

Its funny how anti Helen crowd go on about tolerance and bullying and blah blah bore off then love to pull the 'she was a prostitute' stick out to beat her with

When she herself admits it was a terrible life choice and one she doesnt do anymore. The irony is lost on them it seems.

Well in that case you'll find me humorless, as I'm against Helen very much, and have already objected to her prostitution being used to drag her trough mud. I actually thought that was terrible choice of Brian's to go to press and bring that up after all that happened. He was a hero of the story until he brought that up. I mean, I get it, he was hurt, he lashed out, and he's not the smartest cookie ever, but there are things she does now that are actually bad, no need to dig something up from her past that absolutely no one would do if they had better option, and then act as if they did it out of depravity, it's just low..

In developing world girls work in sweatshops which provide no protection, they can get hurt in all sorts of ways by machines they use, they get no health care, and they still prefer it to prostitution. Unfortunately, those are the only options they have, being uneducated and overall there being no work available. When westerners choose to be humane and activists, and make corporations close their sweat shops due to no access to toilets and bad working conditions (from our POV), those girls can either die or prostitute them selves.

So really holding that against someone is

just

wrong.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Harry is coming over far worse than Marc. And she was shown a lot tonight being a complete cow.

Keep voting for her, whilst I vote for Marc. And hopefully we Marc haters can get him above Jack in the vote.

The bullying of marc is now getting him the sympathy vote. There is no way that he will go on friday.

Marc has been bullying people since he got there. Constant insulting remarks, invading people's personal space, asking intrusive questions, making housemates feel small, goading people to try to make them snap in an effort to get them removed or ruin their chances. Very nasty piece of work.

It is true his popularity is being reinforced, but those of us who see him for what he is have continue to point out the truth.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Keep voting for her, whilst I vote for Marc. And hopefully we Marc haters can get him above Jack in the vote.



Marc has been bullying people since he got there. Constant insulting remarks, invading people's personal space, asking intrusive questions, making housemates feel small, goading people to try to make them snap in an effort to get them removed or ruin their chances. Very nasty piece of work.

It is true his popularity is being reinforced, but those of us who see him for what he is have continue to point out the truth.

You have jumped the shark.

Marc has never got in anyone's space. In fact he was violently bullied by Danny within minutes of entering the house. He had to keep telling thug danny to get out of his personal space.

How on earth can one man bully a houseful of people?

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by mimosveta

Actually, in most cases it was Brian insisting Helen leave third party alone, yes, shouting that Helen leave third party alone, and then Marc would join in sided with Helen, attacking Brian. After the fact he'd say he never attacked Brian first, which is all sorts of gray zone, cause it seems to suggest that it's wrong for Brian to stand up for other hms, but it's right for Marc to stand up for Helen and to pretend Brian was attacking him. And also, after such incidents, Marc would warp the reasons Brian was upset calling him a liar. Like how Marc claim Brian was acting as if he didn't want to nominate Chloe, when in fact Brian didn't want Chloe to be humiliated further when already crying. And then he goes on claiming how Brian lied about him which is another level of lying, it's fracking lying inception.

Indeed. Marc is proving to be even more manipulative than I thought. The Cristian and Jade nominations revealed a lot about him and Brian was right in what he was saying.

Brian pointed out Marc wanted to nominate Cristian and it is a fact that Marc did nominate Cristian. But Marc tried to deflect attention away from this by bringing up him saving Cristian from the second nomination which ended up being Chloe. So what if you did? You're clearly not the friend to Cristian you're trying to make yourself out to be by doing that, because your next nomination was Cristian anyway. Which is all Brian was pointing out.

And Marc chose to not get involved in the nominations the fourth time knowing his "friend" Jade's time in the house hanged in the balance. All he had to do was get Helen to change her vote, which she would have, and Brian would have gone along with any other alternative offered to save Jade. But knowing what the consequences would be, Marc chose to not get involved and in doing so sealed Jade's fate. Some loyalty he showed to his friend Jade there. Again, Brian had a legitimate point.

None of this matters to Marc's admirers by now though. He's made of teflon.

[mimosveta]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

Clearly you misunderstood wha i was getting st so i'Il let you figure it out.

oh, sweetie, it's actually the other way around. you've been owned, pretending I didn't understand what you were saying won't save you.

Originally Posted by BB4fan

And this threads about Aisylene not Helen so try again and I'll be a fan of what I want.

I don't support cheap hypocrites who outstayed their welcome ten yrs ago.

That's okay, I didn't mention Helen, you did just now.

You know what, I'm now not even sure if you've even read my response, or you just typed whatever in hopes "yours will be the last"

[mimosveta]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

And Marc chose to not get involved in the nominations the fourth time knowing his "friend" Jade's time in the house hanged in the balance. All he had to do was get Helen to change her vote, which she would have, and Brian would have gone along with any other alternative offered to save Jade. But knowing what the consequences would be, Marc chose to not get involved and in doing so sealed Jade's fate. Some loyalty he showed to his friend Jade there. Again, Brian had a legitimate point.

I tried to explain this several times in other threads, and never was satisfied with the result, so I've decided to skip it here, but you've worded it just the perfect way. Jade nomination was entirely up to him, if he had sided with Brian, it would be two for, and two against, and they'd have to find someone else where at least three of them agree. But instead he sided with Helen, making Jade be the 3 against 1 nomination.

I'm really annoyed how during tag nomination he blamed half of them that their nominations were copout, when they all had to nominate someone they didn't want to nominate, not cause it was face to face, but cause they couldn't nominate anyone who was already nominated, and they couldn't nominate him either, so yeah, of course their nominations were cop-outs, they had no other choice. And he actually dared to blame them for cop-out after he basically nominated Jade saying "I can't win whatever I say, I will always be hated, so I'll just side with them" which is mother of all cop-outs, he'd be far less hated by all if he actually stood by Jade who was supposed to be his friend.

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

None of this matters to Marc's admirers by now though. He's made of teflon.

lol, nothing sticks to him

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You have jumped the shark.

Now, now.

Marc has never got in anyone's space.

He has constantly got into people's space, following them around the house, getting them in bear hugs, making insulting remarks. He's very clever in either describing all this as "banter" or making it look like playfighting, but it is little more than one man trying to demonstrate his physical power over other people. Throw in the insulting remarks and it begins to resemble bully boy behaviour.

In fact he was violently bullied by Danny within minutes of entering the house. He had to keep telling thug danny to get out of his personal space.

You have left out what led to this which is him, within minutes of entering, telling Chloe she was off for an STI test, essentially saying she looked like a slag. Again, this is called "banter" when it actual fact that word "banter" is used to cover what is little more than bully boy behaviour. He's a very manipulative person who by calling his sly digs at people "banter" makes those on the receiving end feel like they can't object or speak out against it because they fear they'll be accused of having no sense of humour. Which they often are when they do finally snap. Whilst he's celebrated for being a great wind up merchant.

I've seen men do this to their girlfriends. Essentially brainwash them into being the butt of their jokes in front of their mates, getting everyone to laugh along, and when other women who see this ask the girlfriend why they put up with that, they repeat what the man has told them "It's just banter". Marc is very much like this, and his relationship with Sam sometimes reminds me of such behaviour.

How on earth can one man bully a houseful of people?

Very easily actually. He prods away at them constantly, goads them into snapping, makes constant insulting remarks, knowing full well that they can't actually do anything. They can't nominate him because he's the producer's favourite who has been immune for 4 weeks, they can't deck him as most people would have done by now in the real world (spare me the sanctimony about violence - no one would get away with acting like that in the real world), and so they just have to put up with it. He takes full advantage of the situation to prod, goad, overpower, belittle, insult and manipulate.

I don't like Danny. I thought he crossed the line with the sandwich incident, but most of the other times he's got stressed I could see where he was coming from. If a guy called my friend or girlfriend some of the things Marc has said to Chloe for example, he would end up in a massive argument at best.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Now, now.



He has constantly got into people's space, following them around the house, getting them in bear hugs, making insulting remarks. He's very clever in either describing all this as "banter" or making it look like playfighting, but it is little more than one man trying to demonstrate his physical power over other people. Throw in the insulting remarks and it begins to resemble bully boy behaviour.



You have left out what led to this which is him, within minutes of entering, telling Chloe she was off for an STI test, essentially saying she looked like a slag. Again, this is called "banter" when it actual fact that word "banter" is used to cover what is little more than bully boy behaviour. He's a very manipulative person who by calling his sly digs at people "banter" makes those on the receiving end feel like they can't object or speak out against it because they fear they'll be accused of having no sense of humour. Which they often are when they do finally snap. Whilst he's celebrated for being a great wind up merchant.

I've seen men do this to their girlfriends. Essentially brainwash them into being the butt of their jokes in front of their mates, getting everyone to laugh along, and when other women who see this ask the girlfriend why they put up with that, they repeat what the man has told them "It's just banter". Marc is very much like this, and his relationship with Sam sometimes reminds me of such behaviour.



Very easily actually. He prods away at them constantly, goads them into snapping, makes constant insulting remarks, knowing full well that they can't actually do anything. They can't nominate him because he's the producer's favourite who has been immune for 4 weeks, they can't deck him as most people would have done by now in the real world (spare me the sanctimony about violence - no one would get away with acting like that in the real world), and so they just have to put up with it. He takes full advantage of the situation to prod, goad, overpower, belittle, insult and manipulate.

I don't like Danny. I thought he crossed the line with the sandwich incident, but most of the other times he's got stressed I could see where he was coming from. If a guy called my friend or girlfriend some of the things Marc has said to Chloe for example, he would end up in a massive argument at best.

Danny has no room talk. He hoped that a sexual assault victim would be bullied in the street when she left the BB house. He can't possibly try and pretend he doesn't like bullies.

Everything that danny has done has been worse than anything marc has.