[Kizzy]

proportional...... is the key word, is the reaction proportional to the threat?

[VanessaFeltz.]

Sweet justice

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MelihV

Sweet justice

justice how? a pathetic insecure man getting physically violent against a tiny little loud mouth woman? if you think that is just, that explains why our justice systems are so broken.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just glad I dont live in London

vile

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

justice how? a pathetic insecure man getting physically violent against a tiny little loud mouth woman? if you think that is just, that explains why our justice systems are so broken.

There like 5-6 people jumping on one person yelling at him and then the man says something the woman hits him with her freaking shoe.

That makes her and her pathetic friends automaticly wrong in the argument because he wasnt attacking her if you are gonna attack someone you better dont cry when someone attacks back.

Then 5-6 people jumped on the fight to beat man (not to end it) then they all got beaten.

We dont know who started it who did what but if you want to show people that you are the right person in argument dont get into people's personal space dont walk on them when they go over and then dont attack them with objects.

And is it my horrible english skills that i dont understand like almost anything they talk about?

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I feel I would be doing my son a disservice if I advised him to ever hit a woman, at 6'4 it wouldn't ever be looked on objectively by the police. Best to simply walk away, it's perhaps the most responsible reaction.

It sounds good advice, but in the video the guy couldn't walk away. The woman deserved everything she got, in fact I'd say she got off lightly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

It sounds good advice, but in the video the guy couldn't walk away. The woman deserved everything she got, in fact I'd say she got off lightly.

He could easily have walked through the carriage and the doors to another carriage to get away from that "thing"

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Like you I'm naturally against violence, unless, in conditions where it is fair game, imo, from the way I've been raised, although I would never lay a hand on a woman, if a woman wants to act like a thug and throw punches like an animal, then they should really expect to be treated like a man would be treated for behaving like a thug, this man could have easily punched her in the face, but the slap he gave her (which was a mighty fine slap btw) was sufficient enough.

I don't buy into this mentality that women can do whatever they want to men, without consequences purely because they have a vagina, if you want to think you're tough by playing on a normal man's instinct and morals of not hitting females, then you lose the right to play the 'but I'm a woman!!!!' card.

This tbh

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

It sounds good advice, but in the video the guy couldn't walk away. The woman deserved everything she got, in fact I'd say she got off lightly.

If that was the case then why was he also arrested? We all make a conscious decision who to engage with, he made the wrong decision.

[Brother Leon]

That White Knight jumping in to defend her and getting ****ed up

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

That White Knight jumping in to defend her and getting ****ed up

Definitely the best part hahaah

[T*]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Like you I'm naturally against violence, unless, in conditions where it is fair game, imo, from the way I've been raised, although I would never lay a hand on a woman, if a woman wants to act like a thug and throw punches like an animal, then they should really expect to be treated like a man would be treated for behaving like a thug, this man could have easily punched her in the face, but the slap he gave her (which was a mighty fine slap btw) was sufficient enough.

I don't buy into this mentality that women can do whatever they want to men, without consequences purely because they have a vagina, if you want to think you're tough by playing on a normal man's instinct and morals of not hitting females, then you lose the right to play the 'but I'm a woman!!!!' card.

this

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i don't understand the debate. a girl half his size is getting beat on. she wasn't violent, her hands were always loose, she didn't have any weapons. any guy that feels threatened by that girl is a pathetic little bitch.

That guy should be in jail.

The debate is simple. Women fought for equality, not special treatment. Contrary to what you're saying, she did get physically aggressive first (after provoking him with her silly little friends). I'm not saying his reaction was right (I think shoving her away after she swung at him would be more appropriate), but we all have breaking points and she made him reach his.

This reminds me of that scene in EastEnders years ago when Sharon slapped Phil (provoking a few half-hearted gasps), and then he slapped her back and everyone freaked out and was like "You can't do that to a woman ermagherd!!!!!!".

Oh, and your last point about guys feeling threatened by girls is slightly patronising to the women you're apparently defending. I'm sure they're happy to have you fighting their corner.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

The debate is simple. Women fought for equality, not special treatment. Contrary to what you're saying, she did get physically aggressive first (after provoking him with her silly little friends). I'm not saying his reaction was right (I think shoving her away after she swung at him would be more appropriate), but we all have breaking points and she made him reach his.

This reminds me of that scene in EastEnders years ago when Sharon slapped Phil (provoking a few half-hearted gasps), and then he slapped her back and everyone freaked out and was like "You can't do that to a woman ermagherd!!!!!!".

Oh, and your last point about guys feeling threatened by girls is slightly patronising to the women you're apparently defending. I'm sure they're happy to have you fighting their corner.

she got physically violent?

I didn't see her throw him to the floor and start pummeling him, infact i saw the exact opposite.

are we watching different videos?

[Crimson Dynamo]

You dont hit girls, period

If you dont like that rule then get a sex change or fck off to mars

[RichardG]

I'd never fight anyone back - man or woman - not through trying to 'be the bigger person' but because I know there's not a chance I'd win, I'm just weak as hell. I agree in principle that you should be allowed to fight back in self defence/the idea that you should never ever hit a woman even if she's full on ambushing you is mental but I think it all got a bit out of hand from both parties by the end of that video. Everyone should've backed off after the slap.

[the truth]

cor blimey Richard do you get mugged by teenage girls?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You dont hit girls, period

If you dont like that rule then get a sex change or fck off to mars

So much for equality.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He could easily have walked through the carriage and the doors to another carriage to get away from that "thing"

And you don't think she and her cronies wouldn't have followed him?

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If that was the case then why was he also arrested? We all make a conscious decision who to engage with, he made the wrong decision.

He was let go when the film was reviewed , as it was obvious he reacted in self defence.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

And you don't think she and her cronies wouldn't have followed him?

he could then have got off at the next station and if necessary alerted staff

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by lostalex

she got physically violent?

I didn't see her throw him to the floor and start pummeling him, infact i saw the exact opposite.

are we watching different videos?

I said she got physical first, which she did. Remember the part (the part that instigated the violence in the first place, to be specific) where she swings at him when he turns away?

I also don't see the part where he throws her to the floor and starts pummeling her, care to explain when exactly that happens?

See, I actually acknowledged that his reaction was bad, but it seems the some refuse to admit that she did anything wrong by starting it in the first place. Classic "women hitting men isn't a problem" double standard.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You dont hit girls, period

If you dont like that rule then get a sex change or fck off to mars

You shouldn't hit anyone, period. Gender should be irrelevent. Suggesting it's less of an issue for females to hit males is complete and utter nonsense.

Not to mention downright offensive to the male victims of domestic violence (yes, female on male domestic violence is a thing too, shock horror).

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he could then have got off at the next station and if necessary alerted staff

why should he have to go through all that bother?

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by the truth

cor blimey Richard do you get mugged by teenage girls?

No?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by RichardG

No?

thank goodness for that, judging by your last post it appears youd be in serious trouble if they did