[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Poxy Striking Ex ferry Workers Burning Tyres , yet again.

You would think the French could clean it up fast
since its been done so many Fecking Times

[Your summer holidays have gone
up in smoke: British families start
cancelling holidays to France as crisis
in Calais grows after striking ferry workers
block roads with burning tyres ]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3hUl7n2u4

[arista]

The D.M is Not Happy



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-arrival.html

[Nedusa]

I'm so happy to read these headlines, talk about what goes around comes around. Been saying this has been a growing problem for years , UKIP have tried to create their manifesto around the EU and immigration but nobody listens.

They're listening now.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I'm so happy to read these headlines, talk about what goes around comes around. Been saying this has been a growing problem for years , UKIP have tried to create their manifesto around the EU and immigration but nobody listens.

They're listening now.

You and me both Nedusa. (Great to see you posting again).

This is NOT an 'Illegal Immigrant crisis' - it is a 'UK Survival Crisis'.

These are NOT genuine 'Refugees' - they are opportunists.

As Livia points out, these so-called desperate people pass numerous 'safe' countries to try to get into the UK. 99% of them are able-bodied males in the 18 to 35 age bracket. Most of them have been able to pay Ł1,000's of pounds to 'Traffickers' along with other costs, wear expensive trainers and leather coats, and sport mobile phones on which - according to various boasts - they regularly call their parents/grandparents "back home".

What kind of ******* 'intolerable, dangerous, plight are these fit young men fleeing from in their home countries that their elderly parents/grandparents - who are many times more weak and vulnerable - are still living there -- apparently with the 'luxury' and freedom to still be able to use telephones?

Look at the calibre of these 'poor' unfortunates and their contemptuous disregard for us and our laws;

Their sole aim is to enter the UK by any means despite the fact that they KNOW it is ILLEGAL.

They have RIOTED and OPENLY attacked police and lorry drivers.

They have committed ARSON.

They have LOOTED and STOLEN.

And THESE are the bastards that some on this forum want to WELCOME into the UK with OPEN ARMS?

Like you, I have posted many long and comprehensive posts about this huge threat to the Uk so I have no heart left to repeat myself, but I will say this;

These 'poor unfortunates' are driven by GREED not NEED and ASPIRATION not DESPERATION.

'Poor unfortunate refugees' my

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lorry drivers' conversations now apocalyptically racist



STRANDED lorry drivers in Kent have broken records for the level of violent racism in their conversations.

The drivers’ solutions to the migrant crisis and French strikes have already outstripped the worst genocidal fantasies of a raving neo-Nazi and look set to get even worse.

Driver Roy Hobbs said: “For starters, let’s drop the neutron bomb.

“That leaves the road network intact and then we get lorries jousting each other at 75mph to scrape off any migrants still clinging to the sides.

“After that we round up all the French farmers and burn them on a pyre. Then we go home with our heads held high, because we are the knights of the road.”

Race relations expert Dr Mary Fisher said: “We have hit peak racism, with each square yard of Kent equivalent to the outpourings of 160 drunk Australian women on public transport.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...20150731100674

[billy123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Lorry drivers' conversations now apocalyptically racist



STRANDED lorry drivers in Kent have broken records for the level of violent racism in their conversations.

The drivers’ solutions to the migrant crisis and French strikes have already outstripped the worst genocidal fantasies of a raving neo-Nazi and look set to get even worse.

Driver Roy Hobbs said: “For starters, let’s drop the neutron bomb.

“That leaves the road network intact and then we get lorries jousting each other at 75mph to scrape off any migrants still clinging to the sides.

“After that we round up all the French farmers and burn them on a pyre. Then we go home with our heads held high, because we are the knights of the road.”

Race relations expert Dr Mary Fisher said: “We have hit peak racism, with each square yard of Kent equivalent to the outpourings of 160 drunk Australian women on public transport.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...20150731100674

Thats a spoof website you madhead its the UK version of the onion. Did you also believe the story next to it Cheaper to commute from Moon than live in London

[Samuel.]

The public outrage to this is disgusting. One of them can take my place in this country soon enough.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

The public outrage to this is disgusting. One of them can take my place in this country soon enough.

Is it really?

You know they just a minute ago mentioned on the news that the ones that manage to get in are being put up in hotels paid for with taxpayer money, I think if people want to be outraged then most of them are perfectly entitled to do so.

[joeysteele]

Sadly I would have hoped the UK would retain its fair balancing of at least wanting to find out first who of these are genuinely trying to escape persecution and total poverty in their own homelands,before branding them all scroungers and wastes of time and space.

What has happened to the compassion, understanding and basic fairness the UK used to say it prided itself on.

They are being put up in Hotels because we have not as Country made sure we have the right facilities for them to go to, how many years has this been a problem.
If this was millions of people.rather than few thousand at most,then fair enough, but how I wish the media particularly would get this in the right perspective and look compassionately more at a justice angle rather than brand other living human beings as near parasites.

How nice it would be too, if politicians leading the UK, and the PM particularly, did not help fuel the prejudice in the media against these people too.
I really am more and more every day coming to despair at the attitudes of the people in the UK now, I already with a passion hate its rotten biased media.

I am less and less feeling that I am or even want to be, a UK citizen in a hard hearted nation that shows little respect for the lives of people without even knowing their true circumstances or why they may be fleeing elsewhere in the first place.
Awful situation but govts have known this was always possible,the UK one for sure has, it has been warned plenty from UKIP,who will likely have a field day with he plight of these people again.

The French and UK govts have not done enough to set up places where such people can be 'invited' to go until they are assessed as to their real reasons to coming here along with their problems and difficulties.
The fact they have not done that and they end up in Hotels,is because if they do get here, until we do that process, we have some duty to keep them safe.

Or would the media and those who attack these people, prefer they were just abandoned on the streets of the UK or worse still rounded up, thrown into trucks like animals and discarded with no due process of finding out their own fears and issues as to why they are really in the state they are in and so desperate,so desperate they will risk their lives even to get away.

I almost no longer recognise great chunks of the UK for its hard line and cold attitude to such people any more.
I am often just left, watching, shaking my head, in near shame at the news and catching the so called newspaper headlines on issues like this.

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Is it really?

You know they just a minute ago mentioned on the news that the ones that manage to get in are being put up in hotels paid for with taxpayer money, I think if people want to be outraged then most of them are perfectly entitled to do so.

Yes, it is. These people are being talked about as scum. It's far from an ideal situation but it's being fueled by the xenophobia in this country. It's fantastic that they're being looked after in the mean time, and the question that should be asked is why our poorest people are not treated like this, rather than the much popular question of why aren't they being treated like our poorest.

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sadly I would have hoped the UK would retain its fair balancing of at least wanting to find out first who of these are genuinely trying to escape persecution and total poverty in their own homelands,before branding them all scroungers and wastes of time and space.

What has happened to the compassion, understanding and basic fairness the UK used to say it prided itself on.

They are being out up in Hotels because we have not as Country made sure we have the right facilities for them to go to, how many years has this been a problem.
If this was millions of people.rather than few thousand at most,then fair enough, but how I wish the media particularly would get this in the right perspective and look compassionate more at a justice angle rather than brand other living human beings as near parasites.

How nice it would be too, if politicians leading the UK, and the PM particularly, did not help fuel the prejudice in the media against these people too.
I really am more and more every day coming to despair at the attitudes of the people in the UK now, I already with a passion hate its rotten biased media.

I am less and less feeling that I am or even want to be a UK citizen in a hard hearted nation that shows little respect for the lives of people without even knowing their true circumstances or why they may be fleeing elsewhere in the first place.
Awful situation but govts have known this was always possible,the UK one for sure has, it has been warned plenty from UKIP,who will likely have a field day with he plight of these people again.

The French and UK govts have not done enough to set up places where such people can be 'invited' to go until they are assessed as to their real reasons to coming here along with their problems and difficulties.
The fact they have not done that and they end up in Hotels,is because if they do get here, until we do that process, we have some duty to keep them safe.

Or would the media and those who attack these people, prefer they were just abandoned on the streets of the UK or worse still rounded up, thrown into trucks like animals and discarded with no due process of finding out their own fears and issues as to why they are really in the state they are in and so desperate,so deperate they will risk their lives even to get away.

I almost no longer recognise great chunks of the UK for its hard line and cold attitude to such people any more.
I am often just left watching shaking my head in near shame at the news and catching the so called newspaper headlines on issues like this.

I couldn't agree more.

[billy123]

There is something that i just dont get in all this.
The tunnel closures and delays and the chaos that has ensued on both sides of the tunnel was caused by striking French ferry workers blocking the tracks and placing burning piles of tyres on the tracks not migrants. The migrant story was that amidst the chaos caused by striking french workers a group of 150 migrants made 2000 attempts to breach the fence in one night.
How has that become 2000 migrants storm the tunnel? no mention of striking workers being the cause of disruption anymore and the 2000 attempted breaches is now being reported as 2000 migrants.

Dont get me wrong there needs to be changes on both ends of the tunnel proper immigration facilitys need to be set up on both ends and the free flow of traffic needs to be secured but i feel this is purposely being sensationalised and misreported for whatever reason.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bobnot

There is something that i just dont get in all this.
The tunnel closures and delays and the chaos that has ensued on both sides of the tunnel was caused by striking French ferry workers blocking the tracks and placing burning piles of tyres on the tracks not migrants. The migrant story was that amidst the chaos caused by striking french workers a group of 150 migrants made 2000 attempts to breach the fence in one night.
How has that become 2000 migrants storm the tunnel? no mention of striking workers being the cause of disruption anymore and the 2000 attempted breaches is now being reported as 2000 migrants.

Excellent point,a point that really also helps demonstrate the unhealthy and prejudiced view of the media in the UK,as to migrants.

Even more sad and worrying is that people actually take on board the hysterical and prejudiced media line on this issue.

[Kizzy]

I agree with Joey and Samuel too, these people are demonised without question as to why they are paying so much to risk their lives to come here.
The argument that they could stop en route in any European country and be safe is not addressing the real issue, why are tens of thousands fleeing their own countries...
So what if they are made comfortable while they are processed for almost certain deportation, have we no civility left that we deny them a small respite before delivering them back to the uncertain land they riskd their lives to leave?

[lostalex]

if they have no verifiable I.D. and they all have the same sob stories, i'm sorry to be cynical, but i'm sure the human traffickers tell them exactly what type of sob stories to tell in order to be let in. How can you verify any of their stories? By calling their families? obviously their families will say whatever they are told to say.

It's a huge mess, and i don't believe half of the sob stories they tell.

There are tons of very sad stories being told, and the people telling them have MANY reasons to LIE. How do you find the real desperate refugees when all the fakes that just come for economic reasons are telling the same sad stories?

It's disgusting that these migrants are making us unable to determine people that are TRULY in need.

SHAME ON THEM. SHAME.

[arista]

They Are Not Legal
many have no passports.
Thats the problem we have.

Get the New High Fence Up
Use Dogs on every lorry
to make sure all Illegals are Ejected.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

They Are Not Legal
many have no passports.
Thats the problem we have.

Get the New High Fence Up
Use Dogs on every lorry
to make sure all Illegals are Ejected.

but of course Arista, it does break your heart to know that some of those people really do need asylum. it is a shame also on us to deny a person that truly needs help. but how do we find the people who really deserve help among all the liars?

How do we help the people who really do deserve our protection?

It makes me upset to think about.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

but of course Arista, it does break your heart to know that some of those people really do need asylum. it is a shame also on us to deny a person that truly needs help. but how do we find the people who really deserve help among all the liars?

How do we help the people who really do deserve our protection?

It makes me upset to think about.

Yes they can go to Germany
harder life.


We are Full Up
in England.


Get the new High Fence Up
by the channel tunnel French side

[kirklancaster]

The 'Public Outrage' is not generally aimed at ANY help being given to GENUINE refugees - and there are some - just to the never ending thousands of fit, able bodied young men who make up the majority of these 'illegal immigrants opportunity seekers.

Criticising the general public of the UK just because they increasingly do not agree with the 'welcome -one-and-all' mentality is unfair.

The media cannot manipulate actual undoctored live tv footage of the conduct of some of these 'illegals' so it is banal to blame them.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

The 'Public Outrage' is not generally aimed at ANY help being given to GENUINE refugees - and there are some - just to the never ending thousands of fit, able bodied young men who make up the majority of these 'illegal immigrants opportunity seekers.

Criticising the general public of the UK just because they increasingly do not agree with the 'welcome -one-and-all' mentality is unfair.

The media cannot manipulate actual undoctored live tv footage of the conduct of some of these 'illegals' so it is banal to blame them.

that's right.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by lostalex

if they have no verifiable I.D. and they all have the same sob stories, i'm sorry to be cynical, but i'm sure the human traffickers tell them exactly what type of sob stories to tell in order to be let in. How can you verify any of their stories? By calling their families? obviously their families will say whatever they are told to say.

It's a huge mess, and i don't believe half of the sob stories they tell.

There are tons of very sad stories being told, and the people telling them have MANY reasons to LIE. How do you find the real desperate refugees when all the fakes that just come for economic reasons are telling the same sad stories?

It's disgusting that these migrants are making us unable to determine people that are TRULY in need.

SHAME ON THEM. SHAME.

Exactly

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I'm so happy to read these headlines, talk about what goes around comes around. Been saying this has been a growing problem for years , UKIP have tried to create their manifesto around the EU and immigration but nobody listens.

They're listening now.

So true!People walk around with their fingers in their ears until it's too late and then more than likely moan and blame everyone else when our over stretched infrastructure crumbles.

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

The 'Public Outrage' is not generally aimed at ANY help being given to GENUINE refugees - and there are some - just to the never ending thousands of fit, able bodied young men who make up the majority of these 'illegal immigrants opportunity seekers.

Criticising the general public of the UK just because they increasingly do not agree with the 'welcome -one-and-all' mentality is unfair.

The media cannot manipulate actual undoctored live tv footage of the conduct of some of these 'illegals' so it is banal to blame them.

No Blame to them
but they are Illegal
no passports.
Get in Line