[smudgie]

Hmmm, now they have killed his brother, Jericho.
Killing for food is one thing, man killing for vanity is another.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Hmmm, now they have killed his brother, Jericho.
Killing for food is one thing, man killing for vanity is another.

Despite reports that Cecil the lion’s “brother” Jericho had been shot dead by a poacher, a field researcher at Hwange Lion Research said on Saturday: “He looks alive and well.” Another conservation worker said the lion had been seen with a female earlier in the day, “probably mating”.

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...-lion-zimbabwe

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Despite reports that Cecil the lion’s “brother” Jericho had been shot dead by a poacher, a field researcher at Hwange Lion Research said on Saturday: “He looks alive and well.” Another conservation worker said the lion had been seen with a female earlier in the day, “probably mating”.

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...-lion-zimbabwe

Hope he used a condom. This is in Africa, after all.

[MTVN]

Read an interesting article today about how most experts involved in conservation know that trophy hunting is not the main problem or the main threat to the lion and if you didn't have Americans willing to pay thousands of pounds to shoot them then both lions and the local areas could not be protected properly. And though everyone thinks they're cute and loveable animals but they wouldn't seem it if you were a local whose family and livelihood were under threat from them. Point remains of course that this guy acted illegally and that the hunting community are not famed for their ethics in their pursuits but a lot of the outrage is disproportionate especially given the little attention paid to a lot of human suffering around the world (as has been commented on)

This is the article for reference but its behind a paywall: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...ard-2015_08_01

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Despite reports that Cecil the lion’s “brother” Jericho had been shot dead by a poacher, a field researcher at Hwange Lion Research said on Saturday: “He looks alive and well.” Another conservation worker said the lion had been seen with a female earlier in the day, “probably mating”.

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...-lion-zimbabwe

I hope this is right.
I signed a petition/email from friends from Zim earlier today, it stated he had been killed.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Read an interesting article today about how most experts involved in conservation know that trophy hunting is not the main problem or the main threat to the lion and if you didn't have Americans willing to pay thousands of pounds to shoot them then both lions and the local areas could not be protected properly. And though everyone thinks they're cute and loveable animals but they wouldn't seem it if you were a local whose family and livelihood were under threat from them. Point remains of course that this guy acted illegally and that the hunting community are not famed for their ethics in their pursuits but a lot of the outrage is disproportionate especially given the little attention paid to a lot of human suffering around the world (as has been commented on)

This is the article for reference but its behind a paywall: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...ard-2015_08_01

Hmmm the times advocating hunting.. No, I'm not surprised. The organisers of these hunts are the philanthropists of the day saving the community from the constant threat of lion attacks?
There are conservation and wildlife charities as well as organisations and universities worldwide it's a shame the onus is put on the 'entrepreneur' who thought they could sell the right to a lion.
I agree that there has been more sympathy levelled at Cecil than the average human running for their life and that is sad.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hmmm the times advocating hunting.. No, I'm not surprised. The organisers of these hunts are the philanthropists of the day saving the community from the constant threat of lion attacks?
There are conservation and wildlife charities as well as organisations and universities worldwide it's a shame the onus is put on the 'entrepreneur' who thought they could sell the right to a lion.
I agree that there has been more sympathy levelled at Cecil than the average human running for their life and that is sad.

No that might not be their motive but it is still a product of what they do. Fact is if people didn't come to hunt then a lot of these parks would become unviable and not be able to function, they're often out in the most remote areas of African countries where hunter tourists provide the biggest source of income. If there are no efforts being made to regulate the lion population then yes they would become a big threat to local farmers and to their livestock. As long as the hunting is tightly controlled and restricted to older lions not younger ones then it can be part of efforts to protect lions and a lot of conservation experts realise that

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

No that might not be their motive but it is still a product of what they do. Fact is if people didn't come to hunt then a lot of these parks would become unviable and not be able to function, they're often out in the most remote areas of African countries where hunter tourists provide the biggest source of income. If there are no efforts being made to regulate the lion population then yes they would become a big threat to local farmers and to their livestock. As long as the hunting is tightly controlled and restricted to older lions not younger ones then it can be part of efforts to protect lions and a lot of conservation experts realise that

How much of the thousands paid to the trackers goes back into the local community?
There doesn't seem to be as much info on that, I haven't found any.