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lostalex · 27-07-2015, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

The Police are searching his Flat

like he hasn't swept his flat yet?

they should take a hair sample. the hair will show whether he's been using drugs or not.
it should also be a crime to be deciding on british law while under the influence, that is more dangerous than driving while under the influence imo. it certainly affects more people.

joeysteele · 27-07-2015, 06:14 PM

Another waste of space in the Lords and Parliament.

arista · 27-07-2015, 06:15 PM

Yes Alex the House Of Lords
slow it all down

arista · 27-07-2015, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Another waste of space in the Lords and Parliament.

They Block Reform
the old codgers

lostalex · 27-07-2015, 06:18 PM

for the record i don't think there is anything morally wrong with drugs or prostitution, i just think because of the HIPOCRISY that he is a law maker that has sent countless men and women to jail for those crimes, he is absolutely unfit and should face the same consequences he has been responsible for sentencing others to.

arista · 27-07-2015, 11:08 PM

waterhog · 28-07-2015, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

like he hasn't swept his flat yet?

they should take a hair sample. the hair will show whether he's been using drugs or not.
it should also be a crime to be deciding on british law while under the influence, that is more dangerous than driving while under the influence imo. it certainly affects more people.

losalex - i am promoting you to detective inspector.

waterhog · 28-07-2015, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

for the record i don't think there is anything morally wrong with drugs or prostitution, i just think because of the HIPOCRISY that he is a law maker that has sent countless men and women to jail for those crimes, he is absolutely unfit and should face the same consequences he has been responsible for sentencing others to.

i am torn on this because if so many people are doing this and people in these positions that are running this country - is it not best we legalise all drugs and get a income from it and that can be used for the help of dealing with the problem.

clearly people in high positions that are running our country are doing this and the question is ? how can we make it better for us all as why are these people setting laws yet are not leading such a normal a perfect life ? something is not adding up and it needs fixing.

arista · 28-07-2015, 08:40 AM

http://news.sky.com/story/1526323/dr...house-of-lords

Drug Shame Peer Steps Down From House Of Lords

joeysteele · 28-07-2015, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

http://news.sky.com/story/1526323/dr...house-of-lords

Drug Shame Peer Steps Down From House Of Lords

Should have gone the moment this story broke, it is hardly a case of mistaken identity, good riddance to him.

Livia · 28-07-2015, 12:03 PM

If he wants to snort coke and screw hookers in his private home I don't see how that impacts upon his ability to do his job, and if it does, proper steps should have been taken to ensure he stepped down.

I don't agree when the police use entrapment, which is a difficult thing to get to stand up in a court of law. When the tabloids use it, it is deplorable. Almost as deplorable at the "trial by media" that ensues. I'm sure no one would be quite so triumphant if it happened to them and their life was wrecked.

arista · 28-07-2015, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Should have gone the moment this story broke, it is hardly a case of mistaken identity, good riddance to him.

Very True Joey

MTVN · 28-07-2015, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

If he wants to snort coke and screw hookers in his private home I don't see how that impacts upon his ability to do his job, and if it does, proper steps should have been taken to ensure he stepped down.

I don't agree when the police use entrapment, which is a difficult thing to get to stand up in a court of law. When the tabloids use it, it is deplorable. Almost as deplorable at the "trial by media" that ensues. I'm sure no one would be quite so triumphant if it happened to them and their life was wrecked.

Mm this seems to be something he'd do pretty regularly though whether a tabloid happened to have the chance to film it or not. Actually I think this shows the value of tabloids and red tops in a time when they are normally derided by the public. It's clear that he expected to get away with his behaviour and it makes you wonder how much other people in similar positions have gotten away with before the era of media exposes and greater accountability.

There is a clear conflict of interest imo between someone snorting cocaine off prostitutes and someone who is deputy speaker of the House of Lords and chairman of the conduct committee. In that latter role Sewel recently said that "the actions of a few damage our reputation. The requirement that members must always act on their personal honour has been reinforced". Has he acted on his personal honour here?

Crimson Dynamo · 28-07-2015, 01:38 PM

Crimson Dynamo · 28-07-2015, 01:39 PM

arista · 28-07-2015, 02:18 PM

Wicked LT

Kizzy · 28-07-2015, 04:48 PM

God forbid someone who makes our laws be prevented from breaking them.

Livia · 28-07-2015, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN

Mm this seems to be something he'd do pretty regularly though whether a tabloid happened to have the chance to film it or not. Actually I think this shows the value of tabloids and red tops in a time when they are normally derided by the public. It's clear that he expected to get away with his behaviour and it makes you wonder how much other people in similar positions have gotten away with before the era of media exposes and greater accountability.

There is a clear conflict of interest imo between someone snorting cocaine off prostitutes and someone who is deputy speaker of the House of Lords and chairman of the conduct committee. In that latter role Sewel recently said that "the actions of a few damage our reputation. The requirement that members must always act on their personal honour has been reinforced". Has he acted on his personal honour here?

I'm not saying that his conduct was acceptable nor that he should not have stepped down, I'm saying that trial by tabloid media is not the way to go. They are not really interested in the public interest, they're interested in selling papers. There has to be another way.