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07-08-2015, 10:07 AM | #76 | |||
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It already has a definition, some just need to comprehend it.
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07-08-2015, 10:10 AM | #77 | |||
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'The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.'
That is the definition of racism. There's no mention of a specific colours. Anyone can be racist. No matter what colour they are. To suggest otherwise is naive and ridiculous. Some cases of racism may be worse than others, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be taken as seriously.
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07-08-2015, 10:11 AM | #78 | ||
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it needs to be reclarified and redefined...it seems that `the original meaning was to defend and free certain people from discrimination, there seems to be little covering the alleged oppressed groups from discriminating themselves and little to cover what constitutes reasonable or proportional action in retaliation against said oppression. the same with sexism it only seems to work one way, which is wrong and unfair
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07-08-2015, 10:20 AM | #79 | ||
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I think it's quite ridiculous when white people complain about being victims of racism, we have never really experienced it on a level that our race has inflicted on others and white privilege will ensure that we never will. |
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07-08-2015, 10:24 AM | #80 | |||
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If you don't think white people can experience racism, then move to some parts of America. I have a friend who's had to move over there because her husband works there and she says she's never felt so unwelcome and hated in her life.
I went through it when I was a kid... If you haven't lived there, you just cannot say. Yes, I know it sounds ridiculous that a white person can face racism, but when you're made to feel hated/unwelcome/left out/etc etc based on your skin colour, then it's racism either way. Racism has no colour.
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07-08-2015, 10:27 AM | #81 | |||
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07-08-2015, 10:39 AM | #82 | |||
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In your opinion, that is. But by definition, it is racism.
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07-08-2015, 10:43 AM | #83 | ||
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When you look at the history and look at things now, I can't really blame some members of the black community being embittered by it all. As a white person it's infuriating to witness racism but I can't imagine the feeling of actually experiencing it. Last edited by Tom4784; 07-08-2015 at 10:45 AM. |
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07-08-2015, 10:45 AM | #84 | |||
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07-08-2015, 10:56 AM | #85 | |||
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What if a white person is the victim of a racially-motivated attack by a black person? Is this something to take lightly because the white victim will apparently never suffer the same level of prejudice as his attacker? Racism is reprehensible in all of it's forms, I don't think it's ever ridiculous for someone (whatever their skin colour) to complain about racism when they have indeed suffered it. I'm mixed race (English / Pakistani) and I had some racist taunts in my childhood. It hurt, the fact that I haven't been in the same position as black people throughout the worst days of slavery and segregation didn't lessen the blow. Last edited by Lostie!; 07-08-2015 at 10:56 AM. |
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07-08-2015, 11:03 AM | #86 | |||
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07-08-2015, 11:30 AM | #87 | |||
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http://sistahvegan.com/2013/06/01/ca...-white-people/ ..I think it's as the truth said/the definition of the word because prejudice and bigoted, yes...but racism..?... |
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07-08-2015, 11:44 AM | #88 | |||
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Black people can be racist against Asians. Black people can be racist again white people... to say they're incapable of it is R I D I C U L O U S ! Jews are a minority who've been discriminated against for centuries, we've been murdered, gassed, oppressed, expelled from countries, beaten, businesses and property taken... even now Jews are regularly shot while worshiping in synagogues right across the world. Does this mean Jews can't be racist? NO! OF COURSE NOT! We can be as racist as anyone else.
IThinkILoveYouToo tells me that Jews don't understand black people's plight because we "own the banks and Hollywood". That comment would suggest to me that black people can at least discriminate even if the comment was said in ignorance. The racism in her generalising comments about white people has yet to be confirmed by the Mods because I've not noticed any having been removed. |
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07-08-2015, 11:50 AM | #89 | ||
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07-08-2015, 01:10 PM | #90 | ||
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Anyone can be racist!I've mentioned before that one of my schools was in an asian area and they would drive past spitting at me and shouting '*****ing white bastard',If that's not racism then what is?
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07-08-2015, 01:46 PM | #91 | ||
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One suspects that what is being discussed when people say "minorities can't be racist" is institutional racism and, yes, it is arguably true that only white people can engage in institutional racism in Europe / the US (though it is worth pointing out that it does happen with other ethnicities, and against white people too, in other countries such as S. Korea and Japan).
However, institutional racism shouldn't be confused with plain old common racism. Anyone, of any nationality, colour or creed can be a big fat ol' racist. |
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07-08-2015, 01:53 PM | #92 | |||
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07-08-2015, 01:53 PM | #93 | ||
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Or to draw a more direct comparison - it's like saying it's ridiculous for women in the modern western world to complain about being the victims of sexism, because they can vote, haven't had their genitals mutilated, and aren't forced into marriage. If a woman is turned down for a job because of her gender, does that not pale into insignificance when compared to the plight of some other women around the world? Of course it does. It's still sexist, though. Prejudice on the grounds of race, is racism . By definition. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 07-08-2015 at 01:54 PM. |
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07-08-2015, 02:12 PM | #94 | ||
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07-08-2015, 02:16 PM | #95 | |||
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yep, same here... what is going on!??
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07-08-2015, 02:21 PM | #96 | ||
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Yeah, I was probably talking more about institutional racism then general racism tbh.
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07-08-2015, 04:12 PM | #97 | |||
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That would be a literal definition, however the prejudice + power definition is the standard.
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07-08-2015, 04:20 PM | #98 | ||
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You could call it "Negative prejudice on the grounds of race" but... Well... that's just the definition of racism? Also, pointing out that there is a difference between general racism and institutional racism doesn't somehow dilute the reality of the seriousness of institutional racism... Which seems to be some people's concern. |
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07-08-2015, 04:29 PM | #99 | |||
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The literal definition is prejudice on the grounds of race and yet that has no historical connotations to it does it, it doesn't take into account the oppression, repression and suppression does it? It's a blanket term that 'whitewashes' ( ) the true meaning of racism.
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07-08-2015, 05:26 PM | #100 | ||
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The type of racism you are talking about, both with historical context and with regards to there being an element of power / control today, is called institutional racism. The adjective is important, it's what let's you know what sort of racism we're talking about. It doesn't dilute or whitewash the term "racism". If anything, it adds to the implied severity? |
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