[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This is hilarious.

If you drink or smoke but you're against Weed then you're a hypocrite, end of discussion really.

There is no real reason why Weed should be considered an illegal drug, none at all.

Really......!!!!!

Did you not read my post(s)

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Really......!!!!!

Did you not read my post(s)

I did and it was entirely pointless because you assumed that it wouldn't be regulated and controlled in the same way alcohol and cigarettes are and that invalidates your whole argument. The variant of weed you are talking about wouldn't likely be sold anywhere official since chances are the plants would have to be grown to certain specifications in order to be sold to the public.

The kind of weed you're talking about though is no more or less hazardous than the risks of drinking home brewed beer. Liver failure is a lot more serious and common than the 'psychosis' argument spouted by the people who buy the PR bull****.

[Nedusa]

Well on more realistic level the powers that be will never legalise cannabis because they know it would have a pernicious affect on Society , turning an already lazy workforce into goodness knows what.

For that reason alone govts don't want half the Country's workforce on sedation.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Well on more realistic level the powers that be will never legalise cannabis because they know it would have a pernicious affect on Society , turning an already lazy workforce into goodness knows what.

For that reason alone govts don't want half the Country's workforce on sedation.

....You're not serious, right? THAT's your reasoning?

Would you say the same thing about alcohol? It's more addictive than weed, the dangers of consuming too much of it is worse for the person drinking it and the people around them but that's A-okay because Weed will cause the downfall of society?

There's millions of people that smoke weed and, surprisingly enough, they don't turn into Jay and Silent Bob for doing so. Your arguments are based on nothing but rather stupid scenarios, stereotypes and facts without context.

You are reaching for reasons and honestly it's hilarious.

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Marijuana is a terrible curse on society i was an addict and i was injecting 20 marijuanas a day straight into my eyeball. The naysayers are right they arent naive at all this evil must be stopped.

Youtube video

Bless you. The only obvious solution to that is drinking vodka straight through your eyeball. With a teeny weeny bit of lemon juice.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

....You're not serious, right? THAT's your reasoning?

Would you say the same thing about alcohol? It's more addictive than weed, the dangers of consuming too much of it is worse for the person drinking it and the people around them but that's A-okay because Weed will cause the downfall of society?

There's millions of people that smoke weed and, surprisingly enough, they don't turn into Jay and Silent Bob for doing so. Your arguments are based on nothing but rather stupid scenarios, stereotypes and fact without context.

You are reaching for reasons and honestly it's hilarious.

with respect, this is all just fluff from someone who I presume takes cannabis illegally already and wants to justify it.

[Anaesthesia]

Here's my take though.I'm a middle class professional, and I mix with a range of other middle class professionals (doctors, lawyers, programmers...) and we all use MJ. More often than not because of work stress and needing to sleep, and not enjoying alcohol and its effects.

When we're all together at a party or BBQ and playing a silly parlour game like Words against Humanity it can be really funny because everyone's inhibitions are down and it's just fun.

On a creative scale it can also be wonderful, if you write then you'll get some amazing ideas. Just remember to write them down.

Never been attacked by anyone on MJ, but have been assaulted by drunks on too many occasions to count. Legalise MJ, get rid of alcohol.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

with respect, this is all just fluff from someone who I presume takes cannabis illegally already and wants to justify it.

I've never done any drugs in my life and probably never will, I have no interest in doing so. I just think it's ridiculous that weed is treated like it is when we're all fine and dandy with people puffing on cancer sticks and drinking vehicular manslaughter juice.

It's hypocritical.

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I've never done any drugs in my life and probably never will, I have no interest in doing so. I just think it's ridiculous that weed is treated like it is when we're all fine and dandy with people puffing on cancer sticks and drinking vehicular manslaughter juice.

It's hypocritical.

If you've ever drunk alcohol, smoked cigarettes, or drunk coffee, you've "done drugs". It's just a matter of what's acceptable on the day, as I'm sure you know and recognise.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Anaesthesia

If you've ever drunk alcohol, smoked cigarettes, or drunk coffee, you've "done drugs". It's just a matter of what's acceptable on the day, as I'm sure you know and recognise.

I was obviously referring to the currently illegal kind but I understand what you're getting at.

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I was obviously referring to the currently illegal kind but I understand what you're getting at.

Yeah I was pretty sure you were. For me, it's about what should be legal / illegal, and who decides.

[Anaesthesia]

And on what basis.

[lostalex]

i hate being high. it makes me feel like ****, and dizzy, and paranoid... but i totally support everyone else's right to do it.

it's about time they started paying taxes.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by the truth

no. hell no. but prescribed for certain medical conditions yes. drugs is insanely out of control in the uk already as is drug related crime which is 10,000 times per head worse than the usa

Yeah, but they balance it out with their gun crime stats.

[Will.]

I would sign it

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lily.

Yeah, but they balance it out with their gun crime stats.

maybe but it doesn't make our absurd drug related crime and violent crime stats any better....our figures are way worse than the yanks. plus although I detest guns, ill play devils advocate here and point out whilst theres 13000 yanks shot dead on the streets and even worse rates in s America and s Africa...but how many lives do guns actually save? old people are often left defensless in the uk against drug users and violent thieves, I bet theyd love a pistol in their hands and I bet it would ward off some of these thugs

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Well on more realistic level the powers that be will never legalise cannabis because they know it would have a pernicious affect on Society , turning an already lazy workforce into goodness knows what.

For that reason alone govts don't want half the Country's workforce on sedation.

I can guarantee that more people skip work due to alchohol than weed.I've know quite a few people who smoke a J on their breaks.People smoke every night and go to work fine the next day.How many people pull sickies with a hangover?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I can guarantee that more people skip work due to alchohol than weed.I've know quite a few people who smoke a J on their breaks.People smoke every night and go to work fine the next day.How many people pull sickies with a hangover?

booze does enormous damage I agree, its dirt cheap in the supermarket, no one is regulating these rabid alcoholics, its rife , the advertising should be regulated tighter far tighter and kids should be taught about the massive dangers, which they are not. meanwhile it costs the nhs billions

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by the truth

booze does enormous damage I agree, its dirt cheap in the supermarket, no one is regulating these rabid alcoholics, its rife , the advertising should be regulated tighter far tighter and kids should be taught about the massive dangers, which they are not. meanwhile it costs the nhs billions

don't forget - they who buy it are paing tax on it - therefor funding own treatment.

[Kizzy]

Haha of course they'll legalise it if they can tax it, you can already be stopped for 'drug driving' so it's the next logical step I guess.
So it relaxes you... so does diazapam

[waterhog]

i am sure if stopped while driving under the influence of that as well you will be done.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I've never done any drugs in my life and probably never will, I have no interest in doing so. I just think it's ridiculous that weed is treated like it is when we're all fine and dandy with people puffing on cancer sticks and drinking vehicular manslaughter juice.

It's hypocritical.

They made a mistake making alcohol and tobacco freely available and relatively unregulated. Where I am coming from is that we shouldn't sink to the lowest common denominator and just make anything and everything legal. Its not a justification in itself to say that cannabis should be legal because tobacco and alcohol are.

To me its a very strange bandwagon to be on. We know the issues there are with non prescribed drugs in whatever format, so suggesting we add to the mess by making cannabis legal is just illogical.

I should add that any government that positively makes a drug legal which was previously illegal, risks getting their asses sued in this day and age if some unfortunate event can be associated with it. For that reason alone, it will never be legalised

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

....You're not serious, right? THAT's your reasoning?

Would you say the same thing about alcohol? It's more addictive than weed, the dangers of consuming too much of it is worse for the person drinking it and the people around them but that's A-okay because Weed will cause the downfall of society?

There's millions of people that smoke weed and, surprisingly enough, they don't turn into Jay and Silent Bob for doing so. Your arguments are based on nothing but rather stupid scenarios, stereotypes and facts without context.

You are reaching for reasons and honestly it's hilarious.

Nobody's laughing except you..........perhaps you are a victim also of this scourge....

My sympathies if that is the case.

[Kizzy]

If drug driving is a thing then does the vehicular manslaughter label not apply to cannabis too?
Will legalising lessen the associated risk? As said 2 wrongs don't make a right, it's available to those who need it and tolerated for personal use, only mass production of skunk is still investigated.

[waterhog]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh you no your stuff miss.