[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Preach!

Random but I liked what he said from 0:45 about iggy and black appropriation dating back to blues and rock n roll. Preach Russell

Youtube video

People love to ignore the overall message that black people try to convey.

..is it ignoring though CeeCee or just how it's sometimes conveyed like Cal says in his post and as Niamh has said..the 'intentions are good' but maybe sometimes do more harm than good/type thing..and rather than provoke thoughts in people, maybe alienate their ears instead..?...

[Ammi]

..I meant Azealia not Russell btw..

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..is it ignoring though CeeCee or just how it's sometimes conveyed like Cal says in his post and as Niamh has said..the 'intentions are good' but maybe sometimes do more harm than good/type thing..and rather than provoke thoughts in people, maybe alienate their ears instead..?...

But why do blacks have to police their tones and each word when someone like trump can be publicly racist and people are voting for him to be president? This is what I am saying. Different rules for blacks.

Oh we're not going to listen to your point you're angry( basically what miley said about Nicky) meanwhile being a little rascal herself. A lot of white people get oh he's an absolute **** but he has a point but not the same for blacks. Pft.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

But why do blacks have to police their tones and each word when someone like trump can be publicly racist and people are voting for him to be president? This is what I am saying. Different rules for blacks.

Oh we're not going to listen to your point you're angry( basically what miley said about Nicky) meanwhile being a little rascal herself. A lot of white people get oh he's an absolute **** but he has a point but not the same for blacks. Pft.

...but it's not about policing though, I don't think..it's more about a message that she wants people to listen to..?..and it ffels more like a 'celeb bashing/Twitter' thing so that's not really the way..?..and also she's doing exactly the same as what she accuses Miley of surely...'white people have no culture so stealing black culture'...so a 'superiority' really and yet that's what she's speaking up against/I need time to get my thoughts around this.....but atm, that's how it seems anyway...

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...but it's not about policing though, I don't think..it's more about a message that she wants people to listen to..?..and it ffels more like a 'celeb bashing/Twitter' thing so that's not really the way..?..and also she's doing exactly the same as what she accuses Miley of surely...'white people have no culture so stealing black culture'...so a 'superiority' really and yet that's what she's speaking up against/I need time to get my thoughts around this.....but atm, that's how it seems anyway...

That message has been trying to get through many times and people always find an excuse not to listen and I knew people would pick on her using the word 'superiority' to dismiss everything she's saying .

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

That message has been trying to get through many times and people always find an excuse not to listen.

...maybe some people don't but some people do and that's where it shouldn't be a 'black v white' thing because it can't be generalised like that...I mean so far as the music industry is concerned..the black culture has always had a huge impact with soul, jazz, R&B etc...and it's some thing that's often been 'copied' by white artists as well, I mean always but in a positive/compliment way..saying, that artist/sound/tune is great etc ..not always in a negative way like a 'stealing of culture'...

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...maybe some people don't but some people do and that's where it shouldn't be a 'black v white' thing because it can't be generalised like that...I mean so far as the music industry is concerned..the black culture has always had a huge impact with soul, jazz, R&B etc...and it's some thing that's often been 'copied' by white artists as well, I mean always but in a positive/compliment way..saying, that artist/sound/tune is great etc ..not always in a negative way like a 'stealing of culture'...

Ammi sorry but nope! Who is constantly named the best rapper of all time? Eminen. Google king of rock n roll who shows up? Elvis. The list goes on. I read messages like ******* shouldn't listen to rock n roll. When I went to download the looks I was getting-uh. It's not just copying and flattery-they appropriate it with their own rules and reward themselves for it.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Ammi sorry but nope! Who is constantly named the best rapper of all time? Eminen. Google king of rock n roll who shows up? Elvis. The list goes on. I read messages like ******* shouldn't listen to rock n roll. When I went to download the looks I was getting-uh. It's not just copying and flattery-they appropriate it with their own rules and reward themselves for it.

..yeah I recall you saying about Download, that is odd, the looks you were getting but there again..by how many people though/of the thousands that were there ..?...ok, just one site I know but in googling the top 20 R&B singers of all time, 19 of them are black artists and only one (Mariah Carey) isn't...yeah it did say about Eminem but maybe the most commercially successful..?...I'm not disagreeing with you CeeCee, just trying to get my head/thoughts around it and it doesn't seem that 'clear cut' ...