[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Yes and what do gameplayers do? They own it and tell the public, not cry foul when they make a betrayal and the other Housemate fights back.

Only one person crying and that was the attention seeking fairy.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Only one person crying and that was the attention seeking fairy.

Austin seemed genuinely upset to me (no that doesn't excuse his behaviour before anyone jumps down my throat)
...but where was his best mate when he was sobbing? -- Sitting on a chair looking like he couldn't care less, didn't bother to hug his mate like the other housemates were. He nominated his "best friend" in the house (which clearly very much upset Austin), and didn't seem to have the slightest bit of guilt about it. He's being made out to be some hero that stood up to a big bad wolf, but to me he's just shown himself to be a backstabber.

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Dollface

Austin seemed genuinely upset to me (no that doesn't excuse his behaviour before anyone jumps down my throat)
...but where was his best mate when he was sobbing? -- Sitting on a chair looking like he couldn't care less, didn't bother to hug his mate like the other housemates were. He nominated his "best friend" in the house (which clearly very much upset Austin), and didn't seem to have the slightest bit of guilt about it. He's being made out to be some hero that stood up to a big bad wolf, but to me he's just shown himself to be a backstabber.

I wouldn't say 'backstabber', but I totally agree with you. I was disgusted by Jame's reaction (or non-reaction) to Austin's break down. I didn't like that at all. He get's no excuses from me on that.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Stormy

I wouldn't say 'backstabber', but I totally agree with you. I was disgusted by Jame's reaction (or non-reaction) to Austin's break down. I didn't like that at all. He get's no excuses from me on that.

I would've felt betrayed if the person I was closest too in the house put me up for eviction. Austin is hard work and I can see why James gets frustrated with him, but if he was that sick of him that he'd nominate him for eviction, why carry on sleeping in bed with him? He should have made it clear that he'd had enough of him and that they wasn't really quite friends anymore.
Yeah I thought the way he sat there whilst Austin was crying and sobbing was just cold.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I would've felt betrayed if the person I was closest too in the house put me up for eviction. Austin is hard work and I can see why James gets frustrated with him, but if he was that sick of him that he'd nominate him for eviction, why carry on sleeping in bed with him? He should have made it clear that he'd had enough of him and that they wasn't really quite friends anymore.
Yeah I thought the way he sat there whilst Austin was crying and sobbing was just cold.

I don't think James was cold I think he was pretty shocked by the things Austin had just said to Janice and then shocked again by Austin's little breakdown. He's a young bloke and young blokes don't rush to cuddle hysterical friends they just sit there feeling a bit awks.

I think James genuinely did what he thought was the right thing. We can argue over whether he was right or wrong, the point is he felt he was doing the right thing and I think that's OK. They are meant to nominate people they have a reason to nominate, James felt he had a reason.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I don't think James was cold I think he was pretty shocked by the things Austin had just said to Janice and then shocked again by Austin's little breakdown. He's a young bloke and young blokes don't rush to cuddle hysterical friends they just sit there feeling a bit awks.

I think James genuinely did what he thought was the right thing. We can argue over whether he was right or wrong, the point is he felt he was doing the right thing and I think that's OK. They are meant to nominate people they have a reason to nominate, James felt he had a reason.

He couldn't nominate any of the others, because he had no reason to.

[just thinkin]

they're not mates - they are only mates in the house. How unrealistic to actually even think that somebody can be best 'mates' with somebody in an unrealistic situation within 21 days. Bull!!! people are entitled to play the game in that house - its what makes the show.

However,

Austin needs help. Nobody in that house is to blame for how this animal behaved last night. He needs to take responsibility for what he did - nobody else - HIM. and the apologists for him are even worse. There is no excuse for abusing somebody like he did

[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by Dollface

Austin seemed genuinely upset to me (no that doesn't excuse his behaviour before anyone jumps down my throat)
...but where was his best mate when he was sobbing? -- Sitting on a chair looking like he couldn't care less, didn't bother to hug his mate like the other housemates were. He nominated his "best friend" in the house (which clearly very much upset Austin), and didn't seem to have the slightest bit of guilt about it. He's being made out to be some hero that stood up to a big bad wolf, but to me he's just shown himself to be a backstabber.

The cynic in me would say that James thought everything was going great for himself, he'd given his good guy moralistic reasons for nominations, he had some housemates siding with him and possibly the public, Ausin had just lost the plot with Janice and handed any chance of a win away making it even more likely public were on James side, so: Austin looking terrible and James looking pretty good.

Then out of the blue Austin emerges from the diaryroom in floods of tears, a sobbing remorseful wreck and instantly gets comforted by James' earlier supporter Bobby, then Natasha and Sherrie also join in comforting Austin too. Suddenly it's not so clear cut as Austin = 'all bad' and James = ' good'. IF James had done his nomination for tactical\gameplaying reasons then Austin having a breakdown in tears could have thrown off his game for a bit. The delay in his reaction could have been him thinking 'how will I play this, forgive and befriend again or cut all ties with him at this point because of my 'morals'?' - before he eventually just followed the lead of the other housemates...

OR maybe he was just annoyed because Austin had just called him a ball-less something or other, had that row with Janice and he was still too angry with Austin at first to respond?

Neither of these possibilities would surprise me...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Pink Pegasus

The cynic in me would say that James thought everything was going great for himself, he'd given his good guy moralistic reasons for nominations, he had some housemates siding with him and possibly the public, Ausin had just lost the plot with Janice and handed any chance of a win away making it even more likely public were on James side, so: Austin looking terrible and James looking pretty good.

Then out of the blue Austin emerges from the diaryroom in floods of tears, a sobbing remorseful wreck and instantly gets comforted by James' earlier supporter Bobby, then Natasha and Sherrie also join in comforting Austin too. Suddenly it's not so clear cut as Austin = 'all bad' and James = ' good'. IF James had done his nomination for tactical\gameplaying reasons then Austin having a breakdown in tears could have thrown off his game for a bit. The delay in his reaction could have been him thinking 'how will I play this, forgive and befriend again or cut all ties with him at this point because of my 'morals'?' - before he eventually just followed the lead of the other housemates...

OR maybe he was just annoyed because Austin had just called him a ball-less something or other, had that row with Janice and he was still too angry with Austin at first to respond?

Neither of these possibilities would surprise me...

Love reading your posts Peggy I completely agree with the first two paragraphs

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Only one person crying and that was the attention seeking fairy.

Not nice.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Stormy

Not nice.

it's not what you think.

[Vanessa]

A real friend is someone who tells you when you're being an ass, not one who enables our idiotic behaviour. James warned Austin so many times that the way he was treating some of the housemates was wrong. But he ingored him and preferred to listen to Jenna. So he had to nominate him.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

A real friend is someone who tells you when you're being an ass, not one who enables our idiotic behaviour. James warned Austin so many times that the way he was treating some of the housemates was wrong. But he ingored him and preferred to listen to Jenna. So he had to nominate him.

He didn't have to nominate him. He could have moved beds. He could have stopped talking to him. Stopped man tubbing etc..

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Only one person crying and that was the attention seeking fairy.

What a kind thing to call someone.

I wonder if James will have a word with you about your language when he comes out of the house?

But seriously James pretending that his taking on Austin for Janice is just pathetic, especially how his timed it is quite convenient as well.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What a kind thing to call someone.

I wonder if James will have a word with you about your language when he comes out of the house?

But seriously James pretending that his taking on Austin for Janice is just pathetic, especially how his timed it is quite convenient as well.

James is so sanctimonious, I'm doing this for your own good, yadda yadda, Jenna pinned him when she called him out on that face he makes when he is defending the indefensible. James has played a good game but I think this might cost him the win, I hope so anyway ,,anyone but James to win for me now

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Cherie

James is so sanctimonious, I'm doing this for your own good, yadda yadda, Jenna pinned him when she called him out on that face he makes when he is defending the indefensible. James has played a good game but I think this might cost him the win, I hope so anyway ,,anyone but James to win for me now

If anything last night increased James' chances of winning, he's as close as you can get to a certain to win now

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What a kind thing to call someone.

I wonder if James will have a word with you about your language when he comes out of the house?

But seriously James pretending that his taking on Austin for Janice is just pathetic, especially how his timed it is quite convenient as well.

it has nothing to do with his homosexuality, so you can nip that in the bud right now