[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Yes and what do gameplayers do? They own it and tell the public, not cry foul when they make a betrayal and the other Housemate fights back.

Only one person crying and that was the attention seeking fairy.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Only one person crying and that was the attention seeking fairy.

Austin seemed genuinely upset to me (no that doesn't excuse his behaviour before anyone jumps down my throat)
...but where was his best mate when he was sobbing? -- Sitting on a chair looking like he couldn't care less, didn't bother to hug his mate like the other housemates were. He nominated his "best friend" in the house (which clearly very much upset Austin), and didn't seem to have the slightest bit of guilt about it. He's being made out to be some hero that stood up to a big bad wolf, but to me he's just shown himself to be a backstabber.

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Only one person crying and that was the attention seeking fairy.

Not nice.

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Dollface

Austin seemed genuinely upset to me (no that doesn't excuse his behaviour before anyone jumps down my throat)
...but where was his best mate when he was sobbing? -- Sitting on a chair looking like he couldn't care less, didn't bother to hug his mate like the other housemates were. He nominated his "best friend" in the house (which clearly very much upset Austin), and didn't seem to have the slightest bit of guilt about it. He's being made out to be some hero that stood up to a big bad wolf, but to me he's just shown himself to be a backstabber.

I wouldn't say 'backstabber', but I totally agree with you. I was disgusted by Jame's reaction (or non-reaction) to Austin's break down. I didn't like that at all. He get's no excuses from me on that.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Stormy

I wouldn't say 'backstabber', but I totally agree with you. I was disgusted by Jame's reaction (or non-reaction) to Austin's break down. I didn't like that at all. He get's no excuses from me on that.

I would've felt betrayed if the person I was closest too in the house put me up for eviction. Austin is hard work and I can see why James gets frustrated with him, but if he was that sick of him that he'd nominate him for eviction, why carry on sleeping in bed with him? He should have made it clear that he'd had enough of him and that they wasn't really quite friends anymore.
Yeah I thought the way he sat there whilst Austin was crying and sobbing was just cold.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Only one person crying and that was the attention seeking fairy.

What a kind thing to call someone.

I wonder if James will have a word with you about your language when he comes out of the house?

But seriously James pretending that his taking on Austin for Janice is just pathetic, especially how his timed it is quite convenient as well.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What a kind thing to call someone.

I wonder if James will have a word with you about your language when he comes out of the house?

But seriously James pretending that his taking on Austin for Janice is just pathetic, especially how his timed it is quite convenient as well.

James is so sanctimonious, I'm doing this for your own good, yadda yadda, Jenna pinned him when she called him out on that face he makes when he is defending the indefensible. James has played a good game but I think this might cost him the win, I hope so anyway ,,anyone but James to win for me now

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Cherie

James is so sanctimonious, I'm doing this for your own good, yadda yadda, Jenna pinned him when she called him out on that face he makes when he is defending the indefensible. James has played a good game but I think this might cost him the win, I hope so anyway ,,anyone but James to win for me now

If anything last night increased James' chances of winning, he's as close as you can get to a certain to win now

[lewis111]

Love how everyone blasts Chloe and Janice for being fake and looking for sympathy when they cry but when Austin does it it's all "Aww hun" or that he really meant it. Quite clearly not he yet again used his dead brother to look for sympathy, only this time from the public not the housemates, sick

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What a kind thing to call someone.

I wonder if James will have a word with you about your language when he comes out of the house?

But seriously James pretending that his taking on Austin for Janice is just pathetic, especially how his timed it is quite convenient as well.

it has nothing to do with his homosexuality, so you can nip that in the bud right now

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Stormy

Not nice.

it's not what you think.

[Vanessa]

A real friend is someone who tells you when you're being an ass, not one who enables our idiotic behaviour. James warned Austin so many times that the way he was treating some of the housemates was wrong. But he ingored him and preferred to listen to Jenna. So he had to nominate him.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I would've felt betrayed if the person I was closest too in the house put me up for eviction. Austin is hard work and I can see why James gets frustrated with him, but if he was that sick of him that he'd nominate him for eviction, why carry on sleeping in bed with him? He should have made it clear that he'd had enough of him and that they wasn't really quite friends anymore.
Yeah I thought the way he sat there whilst Austin was crying and sobbing was just cold.

I don't think James was cold I think he was pretty shocked by the things Austin had just said to Janice and then shocked again by Austin's little breakdown. He's a young bloke and young blokes don't rush to cuddle hysterical friends they just sit there feeling a bit awks.

I think James genuinely did what he thought was the right thing. We can argue over whether he was right or wrong, the point is he felt he was doing the right thing and I think that's OK. They are meant to nominate people they have a reason to nominate, James felt he had a reason.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I don't think James was cold I think he was pretty shocked by the things Austin had just said to Janice and then shocked again by Austin's little breakdown. He's a young bloke and young blokes don't rush to cuddle hysterical friends they just sit there feeling a bit awks.

I think James genuinely did what he thought was the right thing. We can argue over whether he was right or wrong, the point is he felt he was doing the right thing and I think that's OK. They are meant to nominate people they have a reason to nominate, James felt he had a reason.

He couldn't nominate any of the others, because he had no reason to.

[Kizzy]

This whole 'best friend' thing is getting annoying... He isn't his best friend he hardly knows the guy, yes they've has a few chats but James has no loyalty to Austin :/
It's like when you meet people on holiday and you get chatting for a couple of weeks, you exchange numbers.... but you know you won't call

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This whole 'best friend' thing is getting annoying... He isn't his best friend he hardly knows the guy, yes they've has a few chats but James has no loyalty to Austin :/
It's like when you meet people on holiday and you get chatting for a couple of weeks, you exchange numbers.... but you know you won't call

James should run for his life. The guy is obsessed with him

[just thinkin]

they're not mates - they are only mates in the house. How unrealistic to actually even think that somebody can be best 'mates' with somebody in an unrealistic situation within 21 days. Bull!!! people are entitled to play the game in that house - its what makes the show.

However,

Austin needs help. Nobody in that house is to blame for how this animal behaved last night. He needs to take responsibility for what he did - nobody else - HIM. and the apologists for him are even worse. There is no excuse for abusing somebody like he did

[camertone]

janice has been vile, nobody says anything.. close friend james betrayed austin,. and james refuses to admit janice's faults, .. which pushed austin to a boiling point.

btw, what austin said to janice was home truth.. most people think of her like that deep down.. janice is not a respectable woman, so is james, spineless hypocrite.

[OZBB]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

Austin needs help. Nobody in that house is to blame for how this animal behaved last night. He needs to take responsibility for what he did - nobody else - HIM. and the apologists for him are even worse. There is no excuse for abusing somebody like he did

COMPLETELY agreed!

I'm finding the defenders of him actually EVEN MORE reprehensible!

Would they support a bully attacking an old lady on the street?

If you support Austin you MUST take a LONG HARD look at your own morals and whether you'd support old people being abused and bashed in public.

VILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by camertone

janice has been vile, nobody says anything.. close friend james betrayed austin,. and james refuses to admit janice's faults, .. which pushed austin to a boiling point.

btw, what austin said to janice was home truth.. most people think of her like that deep down.. janice is not a respectable woman, so is james, spineless hypocrite.

there are no 'close friends' in that house - anybody inside that house that thinks so are deluded - anybody OUTSIDE the house that thinks so has not learned any lessons for the last 16 years of bb

[downthechippie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It doesn't matter what Jenna's motives was, you don't nominate allies, but when he nominates his friend then I wouldn't put it past him to nominate an ally (even if it's only formed recently)

Freddie in BB10 lost the plot towards the end of his series, did you see Siavash and Marcus nominating him? No because they was alligned and they knew not to backstab each other.

And for more recent ones Jim and Dappy in CBB13 did/said some disgraceful things yet you didn't see them nominating each other because of them, the same for Helen and Ash in BB15.

And who remembers the abuse that Ashleigh in BB15 received for nominating Christopher despite being as close as Jaustin are suppose to be?

Why is it okay for James to betray a friend/ally but not Ashleigh in her series? Or Dappy when he nominated Luisa? Which btw I disagreed with all 3 choices and Dappy was my favourite in his series so I'm being fair here, why can't other people do the same?

I understand exactly what you are saying Mystic, because loyalty is high up on my list of qualities. Sadly, many people don't seem to put much store by it - as demonstrated on this very thread.

What James did to Austin was spiteful, hurtful, designed to eliminate. You don't do that to 'friends'.

But I think that James is the sort of person who goes about his life, very charming and friendly, on the surface a pleasant person - but underneath he is something else. He has no substance or moral compass.

I would say that the most hurtful people are not those who shout or swear, but those who say things 'in the nicest possible way', calmly and with the pretence of doing it for your own good, while really putting in the psychological knife.

Give me a 'shouter' any day of the week.

[just thinkin]

BIG DIFFERENCE between being a 'shouter' and being a disgusting verbal abuser of women. And not just Janice either - he had a go at Natasha's mothering as well. A walking Turd.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

A real friend is someone who tells you when you're being an ass, not one who enables our idiotic behaviour. James warned Austin so many times that the way he was treating some of the housemates was wrong. But he ingored him and preferred to listen to Jenna. So he had to nominate him.

He didn't have to nominate him. He could have moved beds. He could have stopped talking to him. Stopped man tubbing etc..

[Beso]

try it with your kids, see which one has them cowering in the corner!

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by just thinkin

there are no 'close friends' in that house - anybody inside that house that thinks so are deluded - anybody OUTSIDE the house that thinks so has not learned any lessons for the last 16 years of bb

That's not true.

Plenty of hm's have remained close friends, in and out of the house. Off the top of my head, Alison and Kate. Brian and Narinder. Aaron and Faye.