[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

If Aisleyne had enough control to begin with there would have been no physical element. Farrah proved that by showing up Nicola Unclean and James Jordan tbh

she had some control though, to not throw her actual glass, unlike farrah

i don't like either of them so i'm not being biased, i just think farrah went OTT

[Daniel.]

Nothing will happen to either of them

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Both are in the wrong of course but Farrah took it too far

So did Aisleyne. Farrah took it even further of course, but throwing the drink in the first place was too far itself.

[bots]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Both are in the wrong of course but Farrah took it too far

how do you know that? All we have is what looks like Aisleyne going to throw a drink

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Dollface

like you? you've made it clear you dislike aisleyne ..before we knew anything you straight away came to farrahs defense claiming that she wasn't violent, dispite you not being there.

You say that but I have repeatedly said both are to blame and should be held accountable but I am just keeping in perspective that fights have an instigator.

If somebody attacked you physically and you fought back and injured them is it not still their fault for attacking you first?

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

how do you know that? All we have is what looks like Asliene going to throw a drink

we're going by what someone from the BOTS audience wrote on twitter, i think it's like 2 pages back (in this thread)

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Dollface

she had some control though, to not throw her actual glass, unlike farrah

i don't like either of them so i'm not being biased, i just think farrah went OTT

Some control would not throwing something at another person in my book but hey ho we all have different moral compasses.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

So did Aisleyne. Farrah took it even further of course, but throwing the drink in the first place was too far itself.

that's what I meant

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

You say that but I have repeatedly said both are to blame and should be held accountable but I am just keeping in perspective that fights have an instigator.

If somebody attacked you physically and you fought back and injured them is it not still their fault for attacking you first?

yes you've said they're both in the wrong, but you keep saying that aisleyne's instigated it, as some sort of defense for farrah, but imo there's no excuse for throwing an actual glass, what if it had hit someone in the face and scarred all of their face up?


i don't see throwing a drink as a psychical attack though, you can't hurt someone with a bit of water or champagne

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Some control would not throwing something at another person in my book but hey ho we all have different moral compasses.

oh we certainly do

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dollface

we're going by what someone from the BOTS audience wrote on twitter, i think it's like 2 pages back (in this thread)

eye witness reports are usually very inaccurate, and we don't even know if that person was even there. Maybe Farrah did something, I don't know, but one cannot judge who is worse without the facts

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Dollface

yes you've said they're both in the wrong, but you keep saying that aisleyne's instigated it, as some sort of defense for farrah, but imo there's no excuse for throwing an actual glass, what if it had hit someone in the face and scarred all of their face up?


i don't see throwing a drink as a psychical attack though, you can't hurt someone with a bit of water or champagne

You need to make up your mind - first you say I have said both are to blame but then you say I am defending Farrah

I'm defending nobody in the situation but in situations such as this where both parties are partially to blame and seek out the instigator, who appears to be Aisleyne.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

eye witness reports are usually very inaccurate, and we don't even know if that person was even there. Maybe Farrah did something, I don't know, but one cannot judge who is worse without the facts

true

[LukeB]

tbh Farrah should have chucked her drink over Aisleyne instead of an actual glass then it would be Aisleyne's fault and the one in the wrong but Farrah done something really extreme and chucked a glass. So i can't excuse Farrah at all. Both are in the wrong and are tits. I rather have someone throw a drink over me instead of a glass which could scar me.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

You need to make up your mind - first you say I have said both are to blame but then you say I am defending Farrah

I'm defending nobody in the situation but in situations such as this where both parties are partially to blame and seek out the instigator, who appears to be Aisleyne.

I think i made it clear what i meant, you say both are wrong (well you've said that once, i think) but from your posts, which constantly bring up aisleyne's part in it (and the fact you haven't even addressed the fact farrah threw a glass) screams of bias to me.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by LukeB

tbh Farrah should have chucked her drink over Aisleyne instead of an actual glass then it would be Aisleyne's fault and the one in the wrong but Farrah done something really extreme and chucked a glass. So i can't excuse Farrah at all. Both are in the wrong and are tits. I rather have someone throw a drink over me instead of a glass which could scar me.

this is exactly what i've been trying to say

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

tbh Farrah should have chucked her drink over Aisleyne instead of an actual glass then it would be Aisleyne's fault and the one in the wrong but Farrah done something really extreme and chucked a glass. So i can't excuse Farrah at all. Both are in the wrong and are tits. I rather have someone throw a drink over me instead of a glass which could scar me.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I think i made it clear what i meant, you say both are wrong (well you've said that once, i think) but from your posts, which constantly bring up aisleyne's part in it (and the fact you haven't even addressed the fact farrah threw a glass) screams of bias to me.

If I've spacifically stated BOTH are to blame then how am I biased?

All I'm saying is if two people fight one has to have started the fight, all reports are saying that person is Aisleyne - had it been Farrah I would say the exact same, for me the blame lies with the first person to become physical.

Call me biased if it suits you though

[Dollface]

It's not letting me quote (again ) so this is @Amy Jade;

I've already explained how I think you're being biased lmao, (the fact you stated that farrah wasn't violent BEFORE knowing anything about what had happened, kinda shows who's side you was always on ) do you want me to go over it another 10 times?

Ok, we have a difference of opinion then.

[Amy Jade]

As soon as it was brought up Farrah threw a chair did I not agree with Liam both should be held accountable?

Yes.

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

As soon as it was brought up Farrah threw a chair did I not agree with Liam both should be held accountable?

Yes.

Let's see...someone throwing champagne and getting a person wet AND someone throwing a chair and getting someone sent to the hospital.

Hmmmm....no difference, both at fault. No bias there. Right.

[Wizard.]

According to Janices' spokesperson it was Janice who threw a chair, but it was either Aisleyne or Farrah that threw the glass that hit Vicki.

[RichardG]

Janice threw the chair?

This story just gets more and more ridiculous, such an odd evening of television lmao

[Oaker]

omg messy Janice <3

I really wish we actually got to see what happened

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by RichardG

Janice threw the chair?

This story just gets more and more ridiculous, such an odd evening of television lmao

If it was Janice throwing the chair she should be ashamed. She should not have gotten into the middle of their argument. Just step away. Getting a little wet doesn't justify throwing glass or chairs at people....so stupid.