[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..a bullet when fired at a safe distance can't be defended against, no matter how powerful the animal though...the elephant was as helpless as a lamb...

elephants have been around just as long as humans. they could choose to invent guns if they wanted to. they have tusks and much stronger legs, that's not fair either.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..a bullet when fired at a safe distance can't be defended against, no matter how powerful the animal though...the elephant was as helpless as a lamb...

Bang On Right
Slick Ammi.


Alex is Wrong on This Topic

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

an elephant is big and powerful and can defend itself. a cow or a chicken raised on a farm is helpless.

The Cow or Chicken are in Factorys for Food



The Elephant has no power against a Evil Gun Fecker Kraut

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

The Cow or Chicken are in Factorys for Food



The Elephant has no power against a Evil Gun Fecker Kraut

the elephant is much more powerful than a human and elephants atlas live free before they are hunted. , a chicken that has lived in a factory has never known freedom and has no defenses at all.

eating a chicken is far more evil in my opinion.

[Kizzy]

Bit of a non argument comparing animals in the wild to those raised for food.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Bit of a non argument comparing animals in the wild to those raised for food.

Why?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Why?

The numbers involved, the fact that animals raised for food are not restricted to 2 continents, the ability to reproduce, the ease of raising/feeding/ processing.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The numbers involved, the fact that animals raised for food are not restricted to 2 continents, the ability to reproduce, the ease of raising/feeding/ processing.

By this logic, the lives of certain fish are worth more than any human life.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

By this logic, the lives of certain fish are worth more than any human life.

Why stop at fish? I'm sure there are rarer mollusks or bacteria...

[JoshBB]

I think hunting really needs to be banned. Calling it a 'sport' doesn't cut it for me.. if someone finds enjoyment out of killing harmless animals then they need help.

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I think hunting really needs to be banned. Calling it a 'sport' doesn't cut it for me.. if someone finds enjoyment out of killing harmless animals then they need help.

We can not tell Africa what to do.


Unless you are saying take control of each nation
again.

British Empire JoshBB

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I think hunting really needs to be banned. Calling it a 'sport' doesn't cut it for me.. if someone finds enjoyment out of killing harmless animals then they need help.

They don't need help, they need putting down or locking up for the rest of their pathetic lives

[bots]

There are some real ethical dilemmas in all of this. Lions are now being bred for trophy hunters to hunt down. So, in some respects its increasing the lion population and its funding the wildlife sanctuaries.

In the UK we breed grouse and other fowl with the express intention of shooting them for sport. I don't honestly see a difference between that and the breeding of lions for the same purpose in Africa. Perhaps we should be putting our own house in order before we go telling other countries what they can and can't do

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

There are some real ethical dilemmas in all of this. Lions are now being bred for trophy hunters to hunt down. So, in some respects its increasing the lion population and its funding the wildlife sanctuaries.

In the UK we breed grouse and other fowl with the express intention of shooting them for sport. I don't honestly see a difference between that and the breeding of lions for the same purpose in Africa. Perhaps we should be putting our own house in order before we go telling other countries what they can and can't do

Yeah there is a risk of oversimplifying this. Fact is that local economies in rural regions of Africa are often heavily dependent on the income that is generated from Western tourists who are prepared to pay tens of thousands of pounds to shoot big game. In fact that money can also be used to fund conservation efforts and to protect some of these species the better. The answer doesn't lie in banning hunting imo, it lies in tightly regulating and controlling it so that the money can be harnessed effectively and invested back into the local areas and into conservation.

[Kizzy]

This elephant wasn't bred in captivity.

[Kizzy]

Five years ago, the South African government effectively banned canned hunting by requiring an animal to roam free for two years before it could be hunted, severely restricting breeders and hunters' profitability. But lion breeders challenged the policy in South Africa's courts and a high court judge eventually ruled that such restrictions were "not rational".

Breeders argue it is better that hunters shoot a captive-bred lion than further endanger the wild populations, but conservationists and animal welfare groups dispute this. Wild populations of lions have declined by 80% in 20 years, so the rise of lion farms and canned hunting has not protected wild lions. In fact, according to Fiona Miles, director of Lionsrock, a big cat sanctuary in South Africa run by the charity Four Paws, it is fuelling it,'

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...bred-slaughter