[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

This is tax credits though.Working adults should be able to afford cigs and booze if they choose imo.If employers paid decent wages then people could afford these things without the tax credits.I agree with you on people claiming JSA and other non working benefits though.

I know I've already said this but its worth repeating.
Over 60% of British people within working age are only one pay slip away from the poverty line. If a person works for 20 years before getting struck off; if that person can’t find immediate suitable employment to sustain their normal outgoings which includes their mortgage; in the present system they will fall into a financial crisis very quickly. Should we add to that pain by removing JSA from such people if they happen to smoke?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I know I've already said this but its worth repeating.
Over 60% of British people within working age are only one pay slip away from the poverty line. If a person works for 20 years before getting struck off; if that person can’t find immediate suitable employment to sustain their normal outgoings which includes their mortgage; in the present system they will fall into a financial crisis very quickly. Should we add to that pain by removing JSA from such people if they happen to smoke?

Some people sit living comfortably on benefits for life without even trying to get work and they spend the majority of their benefits on an alcoholic lifestyle and use that as an excuse that they can't work.That is more what i meant.Fags not so much.I have nothing against people smoking whilst actively trying to find work.I've been on JSA and smoked in the past.It's the ones who use benefits as a lifestyle choice and expect the tax payer to fund their nicotine and alcohol addictions that i would object to.Alot of working people can't even afford to get drunk now and then.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Some people sit living comfortably on benefits for life without even trying to get work and they spend the majority of their benefits on an alcoholic lifestyle and use that as an excuse that they can't work.That is more what i meant.Fags not so much.I have nothing against people smoking whilst actively trying to find work.I've been on JSA and smoked in the past.It's the ones who use benefits as a lifestyle choice and expect the tax payer to fund their nicotine and alcohol addictions that i would object to.Alot of working people can't even afford to get drunk now and then.

NO ONE who IS working should EVER be placed in a position where they would be financially better off by NOT working, or be placed in a position where they ARE financially worse off than some who are NOT working - WHATEVER the reasons behind such an inane status quo.