[JoshBB]

http://news.sky.com/story/1572542/pe...redible-labour

"£10 a month NHS fees"

BYE why were you allowed in Labour in the first place

[arista]

"A former minister of health under Tony Blair,"

JoshBB he is a Red Tory.

[joeysteele]

Who is he again?

Oh another political has been and another insignificant, off he can go then.

Silly man.

[Livia]

Kind of admire his honesty.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Who is he again?

Oh another political has been and another insignificant, off he can go then.

Silly man.

He was on D.P BBC2HD today
and he is live on SkyNewsHD in a min or so

He has been there for a long time

[bitontheslide]

1 person on there own means nothing. There is a trend however, and if Corbyn doesn't stem the tide, it will only get worse from here

[DemolitionRed]

It takes a while to sort out the wheat from the chaff.

I was aware that some of the old Labour Lords have a vested interest in privatizing the NHS. Warner will probably be worrying about the shares he bought in pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies.

Here we go, didn't take long to find this: Lord Warner: Former adviser to Apax Partners, one of the leading global investors in the healthcare sector. Current director of Sage Advice Ltd. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...40-peers-84917

[kirklancaster]

Labour lost voters because of their fears under a Labour Government about the abysmal Ed Miliband, our failed debt-ridden economy, our welfare, tax system, the unions and immigration,

If anything, those fears have intensified AND widened with Corbyn as leader, so can ANYONE on here - Socialist, Right Wing or Monster Raving Looney Party supporters - tell me JUST HOW Warner is WRONG in claiming that Labour are now "Unelectable"?

[Northern Monkey]

The thing is........He's right

[Kizzy]

We're still debt ridden, we've had cut after cut and the debt gets worse... how is this seen as progress?
One peer with his nose in the private sector trough does nothing to convince me of anything.

[Anaesthesia]

I don't believe Corbyn wants or thinks to be elected. What I think he does, at least how I perceive it...is that he is trying to make people THINK. It's too easy to make people nonchalant about what is happening within their societies.

He is trying to distinguish political parties, trying to become less homogenised.

In an age where we are looking for alternatives to the general meh...even the brief rise of ukip...I think attempts to engage and debate should be embraced.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Labour lost voters because of their fears under a Labour Government about the abysmal Ed Miliband, our failed debt-ridden economy, our welfare, tax system, the unions and immigration,

If anything, those fears have intensified AND widened with Corbyn as leader, so can ANYONE on here - Socialist, Right Wing or Monster Raving Looney Party supporters - tell me JUST HOW Warner is WRONG in claiming that Labour are now "Unelectable"?

Of course Labour are unelectable at the moment but they are merely weeks in and they still have four and a half years to go.

What Warner should of said is, "Corbyn will ruin my chance to pillage the NHS and syphon off the tax payers money into my bank account".

The Tories along with some Labour and LibDem MP's have spent the last 20 years setting up the privatization of the NHS so they can retire into the businesses they have set up and profit from those private industries they engineered. Corbyn wants to undo all that preparation.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Anaesthesia

I don't believe Corbyn wants or thinks to be elected. What I think he does, at least how I perceive it...is that he is trying to make people THINK. It's too easy to make people nonchalant about what is happening within their societies.

He is trying to distinguish political parties, trying to become less homogenised.

In an age where we are looking for alternatives to the general meh...even the brief rise of ukip...I think attempts to engage and debate should be embraced.

Well said

[the truth]

would he do business with the chinese

[MTVN]

Achieved more than Jeremy 'non-entity backbencher for 30 years' Corbyn has ever done in government

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Anaesthesia

I don't believe Corbyn wants or thinks to be elected. What I think he does, at least how I perceive it...is that he is trying to make people THINK. It's too easy to make people nonchalant about what is happening within their societies.

He is trying to distinguish political parties, trying to become less homogenised.

In an age where we are looking for alternatives to the general meh...even the brief rise of ukip...I think attempts to engage and debate should be embraced.

I have a feeling that Corbyn will not lead Labour into the 2010 election but he will have re-defined their policies by the time he goes.

As long as most of his policies remain, policies which are seen as new and challenging to the younger voters, then I have feeling he would be just as happy to have achieved that.