[Ammi]

..oh and it's not just members either who are deemed 'irrelevant'...how irrelevant was Riggins Retreat or The Lounge in terms of a chat thread until behaviour has got the other one closed...well their irrelevance was because they have never ever contained packs but they're very relevant now it seems...seriously, try to step back and look at this because it's a very real thing atm and has been for a little while ...it's not big, it's not clever and it's extremely grim ...and it most definitely does not make someone part of a 'cool crowd' because it's far from being cool...

[kirklancaster]

I am baffled by all this.

I was nice to GPF on the few times we had contact and I had/have no problem with him, but our paths did not cross really.

As to the other thread, I spontaneously laughed out loud at the video cover (whether it was GPF or not who was featured) in the same manner that I often laugh out loud at LT's posts or Marsh's - because I have a very broad and deep sense of humour and it was genuinely funny. I make no apologies for that.

I really do not understand where the 'bullying' aspect comes in as far as the other thread is concerned, but I am not au fait with GPF and his relationship with other 'young' game-playing members, so perhaps there is some 'sinister' aspect to some of the posts - singularly or collectively - that I do not recognise.

I see only mild 'mickey-taking' and lots of jovial banter punctuated by lots of 'joker' and 'laugh' emoticons - which, perhaps, support the general brevity and light-heartedness of the majority of posts.

Anyway, I have never bullied anyone in my life, deplore all forms of bullying, and sincerely hope that I was NOT included in any allegation or suggestion of 'bullying' because I was not.

Personally, I do not see where the majority of members were either.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I am baffled by all this.

I was nice to GPF on the few times we had contact and I had/have no problem with him, but our paths did not cross really.

As to the other thread, I spontaneously laughed out loud at the video cover (whether it was GPF or not who was featured) in the same manner that I often laugh out loud at LT's posts or Marsh's - because I have a very broad and deep sense of humour and it was genuinely funny. I make no apologies for that.

I really do not understand where the 'bullying' aspect comes in as far as the other thread is concerned, but I am not au fait with GPF and his relationship with other 'young' game-playing members, so perhaps there is some 'sinister' aspect to some of the posts - singularly or collectively - that I do not recognise.

I see only mild 'mickey-taking' and lots of jovial banter punctuated by lots of 'joker' and 'laugh' emoticons - which, perhaps, support the general brevity and light-heartedness of the majority of posts.

Anyway, I have never bullied anyone in my life, deplore all forms of bullying, and sincerely hope that I was NOT included in any allegation or suggestion of 'bullying' because I was not.

Personally, I do not see where the majority of members were either.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..oh and it's not just members either who are deemed 'irrelevant'...how irrelevant was Riggins Retreat or The Lounge in terms of a chat thread until behaviour has got the other one closed...well their irrelevance was because they have never ever contained packs but they're very relevant now it seems...seriously, try to step back and look at this because it's a very real thing atm and has been for a little while ...it's not big, it's not clever and it's extremely grim ...and it most definitely does not make someone part of a 'cool crowd' because it's far from being cool...

So much truth

[Ashsleigh]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..oh and it's not just members either who are deemed 'irrelevant'...how irrelevant was Riggins Retreat or The Lounge in terms of a chat thread until behaviour has got the other one closed...well their irrelevance was because they have never ever contained packs but they're very relevant now it seems...seriously, try to step back and look at this because it's a very real thing atm and has been for a little while ...it's not big, it's not clever and it's extremely grim ...and it most definitely does not make someone part of a 'cool crowd' because it's far from being cool...

But it's not just about being "cool", I enjoy speaking with the people that I'm supposedly in a "pack" with and I can't be bothered to not speak to them just to please the odd few. And it's not like we're isolating ourselves either, it's actually others isolating us because of this pack business. That's how I feel anyway. The only people who associate us together are those who aren't us.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

But it's not just about being "cool", I enjoy speaking with the people that I'm supposedly in a "pack" with and I can't be bothered to not speak to them just to please the odd few. And it's not like we're isolating ourselves either, it's actually others isolating us because of this pack business. That's how I feel anyway. The only people who associate us together are those who aren't us.

...yeah, that really is part of it, that there has for a long time been an 'us' thing in one chat thread and not everyone is made to feel welcomed in the same way and sometimes in a very 'pack' way so not just a thing of a personality clash just between two people and allowing them to sort that out just themselves...it's just good for people to step back and get some perspective because I'm sure that many aren't even aware it's happening...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..oh and it's not just members either who are deemed 'irrelevant'...how irrelevant was Riggins Retreat or The Lounge in terms of a chat thread until behaviour has got the other one closed...well their irrelevance was because they have never ever contained packs but they're very relevant now it seems...seriously, try to step back and look at this because it's a very real thing atm and has been for a little while ...it's not big, it's not clever and it's extremely grim ...and it most definitely does not make someone part of a 'cool crowd' because it's far from being cool...

I don't think the chat threads are about being relevant or irrelevant.

The reason Riggins Retreat was used less was because it's only frequented by people who use the chat threads a lot less and didn't like to use the main lounge or the other because they don't associate much with the members who use it.

(For example, hence Drew's move from Riggins to the Lounge once the other members came in).

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't think the chat threads are about being relevant or irrelevant.

The reason Riggins Retreat was used less was because it's only frequented by people who use the chat threads a lot less and didn't like to use the main lounge or the other because they don't associate much with the members who use it.

(For example, hence Drew's move from Riggins to the Lounge once the other members came in).

..no actually Marsh, I've seen many snipes myself about Riggins..(because I don't do hearsay and gossip/type thing..).. and why it's needed just because it's not always posted in as regularly and I think we're all aware of the fuss about The Lounge when it was re-made by Lily and even after it was explained that it was something that could be used for people who haven't yet got the post count for the private section...and I've also seen the term 'irrel' used quite regularly to describe some members on the forum...also, you know yourself too well how you're welcomed back after a 'break' and that's good and how it should be but the same welcome is not extended to all and far from it, sometimes the complete opposite and very hostile thing...

..anyways, I'm going to have to go try and sort my laptop out so will bow out for the moment...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..no actually Marsh, I've seen many snipes myself about Riggins..(because I don't do hearsay and gossip/type thing..).. and why it's needed just because it's not always posted in as regularly and I think we're all aware of the fuss about The Lounge when it was re-made by Lily and even after it was explained that it was something that could be used for people who haven't yet got the post count for the private section...and I've also seen the term 'irrel' used quite regularly to describe some members on the forum...also, you know yourself too well how you're welcomed back after a 'break' and that's good and how it should be but the same welcome is not extended to all and far from it, sometimes the complete opposite and very hostile thing...

..anyways, I'm going to have to go try and sort my laptop out so will bow out for the moment...

Well, I can't comment on the Riggins thing because I've never actually engaged in any kind of actual discussion over it. Much less heard it called 'irrel' so I can only presume it's done by members I don't talk to as much as others.

As for the welcome not being extended to all, you'll have to be more specific. Do you mean new members, other banned members?