[bots]

sentencing obviously has to follow the legalities of the situation to the letter. Its like legal ages of responsibility and everything else. If she is not deemed to be legally a woman, then that's how it must be. At the end of the day, the issue would never have arisen if she hadn't broken the law so I have zero sympathy.

If the situation were reversed and it was a female to male transgender, I bet there would be zero calls for him to go to a male prison.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

sentencing obviously has to follow the legalities of the situation to the letter. Its like legal ages of responsibility and everything else. If she is not deemed to be legally a woman, then that's how it must be. At the end of the day, the issue would never have arisen if she hadn't broken the law so I have zero sympathy

You think she deserves to be thrown into a prison full of men and probably end being raped on a daily basis then? Have you seen the pictures of her?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You think she deserves to be thrown into a prison full of men and probably end being raped on a daily basis then? Have you seen the pictures of her?

i think that special circumstances should avail at the prison she is sent to and I believe that is exactly what is happening.

Many different types of people require specific protection when they go to prison, I don't see this being any different.

[Jamie89]

Well I'd like to know what Germaine Greer has to say on the issue

[Kizzy]

Shocking, I know there must be rules against someone who is legally a man in a Womans prison but come on!

[Tom4784]

There's a Duty of Care towards keeping inmates safe and putting a transgendered woman, regardless of what she's done, in a male prison that's known for it's violence flies in the face of Duty of Care.

There's no justification for it.

[Denver]

One thing I don't understand is if she is women why does she still keep a passport saying she is a male?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

One thing I don't understand is if she is women why does she still keep a passport saying she is a male?

I presume those documents can't be changed until you get the operation? (that's a guess though)

[Livia]

Stick her in solitary. It won't matter then whether she's in a male or female prison. And if she doesn't like it, well, maybe she'll think twice before getting into another bar fight.

[Liam-]

Has he had the gender reassignment surgery?

[Crimson Dynamo]

lol she is getting moved to a womans prison so worry over...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol she is getting moved to a womans prison so worry over...

Really?

Isn't she still in possession of her male genitals?

Ridiculous fuss for a bar brawler.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Livia

Really?

Isn't she still in possession of her male genitals?

Ridiculous fuss for a bar brawler.

Don't you think that's a bit of an invasive question that you would subject a transgender individual to?

Genitals ≠ Gender

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Don't you think that's a bit of an invasive question that you would subject a transgender individual to?

Genitals ≠ Gender

wearing dresses and makeup doesn't = gender either. and you can't wear dresses or makeup in prison anyway.

why should this person be allowed to be safe in a women's prison when plenty of other people with a penis would also be more safe in a women's prison? why does she deserve more safety than a man who is also being harassed in a men's prison?

all prisons should be fully integrated men and women. it's the prison's job to protect ALL of the vulnerable people, male female, or trans.

That's true Equality.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Really?

Isn't she still in possession of her male genitals?

Ridiculous fuss for a bar brawler.

Is she really?



That adds a very large grey area to the debate.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol she is getting moved to a womans prison so worry over...

Did you have to?Now i'm starting to question my sexuality

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Did you have to?Now i'm starting to question my sexuality

Don't ever watch BBUSA17 then if you get worried about questioning your sexuality.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Don't ever watch BBUSA17 then if you get worried about questioning your sexuality.

It seems highly unlikely that a homosexual male would be attracted to a transgender male -> female though... surely? If they are, then THEY should be questioning their sexuality . "Guys... guys I've been finding myself attracted to a transgender woman called Sue. I... I'm starting to think that I might be straight ."

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It seems highly unlikely that a homosexual male would be attracted to a transgender male -> female though... surely? If they are, then THEY should be questioning their sexuality . "Guys... guys I've been finding myself attracted to a transgender woman called Sue. I... I'm starting to think that I might be straight ."

As humorous as this is T.S - It's true.

'Though I bet some cons who have been banged up for years would shag a pig if it was put in their cell without pondering their sexuality too much.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Did you have to?Now i'm starting to question my sexuality

Aren't you a straight male? bc she's female so no you aren't questioning it at all.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Aren't you a straight male? bc she's female so no you aren't questioning it at all.

hmm.I would'nt actually call somebody with a tiny penis female but hey maybe things have changed since i did biology.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol she is getting moved to a womans prison so worry over...

Figured this would happen, mistakes happen

[kirklancaster]

I wonder if the 90% Lesbian Prison staff will become confused and woo her with gifts, and favours the way they did Myra Hindley?

[JoshBB]

Disgusting.. she still deserves to go to prison if she committed the crime, but surely if we're doing the gender-separation prison thing then she should be going to a female prison.. as she is female.. honestly why is this even something that needs to be pointed out?

[lostalex]

It's wrong for prisons to be segregated by gender to begin with. all prisons should be integrated.