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The X Factor 2015 [S12] Series 12 of ITV's music reality show, The X Factor with judges Simon, Rita Ora, Cheryl and Nick Grimshaw ran from August to December 2015 and was won by Louisa Johnson.

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Old 08-11-2015, 09:37 PM #1
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I agree, that what makes a great judge
that is weird? i never knew sending home a better act made someone a better judge.
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that is weird? i never knew sending home a better act made someone a better judge.
If he was a better act why didn't he get the votes from the public that got him in the bottom 3?
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If he was a better act why didn't he get the votes from the public that got him in the bottom 3?
The amount of votes they get the how talented they are isn't necessarily linked. Better singers have left plenty of times, it doesn't automatically make them less talented than the one they left against.

But then, "better" is subjective too.
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The amount of votes they get the how talented they are isn't necessarily linked. Better singers have left plenty of times, it doesn't automatically make them less talented than the one they left against.

But then, "better" is subjective too.
But why blame the judges? The public obviously never got behind him and Seann has had two boring shouty songs...he was too theatrical for the show really
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But why blame the judges? The public obviously never got behind him and Seann has had two boring shouty songs...he was too theatrical for the show really
because its a singing competion.

the way the judges act is the reason viewers turn off
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But why blame the judges? The public obviously never got behind him and Seann has had two boring shouty songs...he was too theatrical for the show really
If you believe the judges shouldn't be at all held accountable then why did you insult Simon last week when he saved Kiera based on the sing-off?

And I never absolved the voters, I count myself among those who shouldn't have assumed certain people were safe.
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The amount of votes they get the how talented they are isn't necessarily linked. Better singers have left plenty of times, it doesn't automatically make them less talented than the one they left against.

But then, "better" is subjective too.
Due to deadlock 95% of the time.. I blame the public more than I do the judges tbh
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Due to deadlock 95% of the time.. I blame the public more than I do the judges tbh
If the public vote wrongly and put someone more talented last in the vote out of the bottom two, then it's up to the judges to rectify that and save the more talented acts, that's the whole point of the bottom two system even being there, not to embarrass the talented act by also letting them know that the public didn't vote for you at all and you're therefore eliminated whilst an act that's been **** in week 1, 2, and the sing-off is still in the competition.
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If the public vote wrongly and put someone more talented last in the vote out of the bottom two, then it's up to the judges to rectify that and save the more talented acts, that's the whole point of the bottom two system even being there, not to embarrass the talented act by also letting them know that the public didn't vote for you at all and you're therefore eliminated whilst an act that's been **** in week 1, 2, and the sing-off is still in the competition.
Who knows if it's really the judges choice, producers can easily tell them what to do
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Who knows if it's really the judges choice, producers can easily tell them what to do
Either way they're not thinking smartly as all of the alternative choices to that cliched top 4 are being removed or sabotaged.

The producers should be trying to make an entertaining show, not remove all of the interesting ones because the public are unprofessional.
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If he was a better act why didn't he get the votes from the public that got him in the bottom 3?
Because the public are thick and think that it's Big Brother meets America's Next Top Model.
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Because the public are thick and think that it's Big Brother meets America's Next Top Model.
Or the public felt angry/sorry for the acts that were sabotaged. Anton isn't the best looking and was the worst last night because Simon sabataged him.
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Or the public felt angry/sorry for the acts that were sabotaged. Anton isn't the best looking and was the worst last night because Simon sabataged him.
This isn't about people being sabotaged, Seann was one of only two acts that even sung in tune on Saturday night so for him to even be in contention to be in the bottom three let alone 10th out of 11 is bang out of order from the public, and it shows that they're not voting based on the performances because if they was Anton would've been in the bottom three, and Seann would've been in the top five.
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This isn't about people being sabotaged, Seann was one of only two acts that even sung in tune on Saturday night so for him to even be in contention to be in the bottom three let alone 10th out of 11 is bang out of order from the public, and it shows that they're not voting based on the performances because if they was Anton would've been in the bottom three, and Seann would've been in the top five.
Well that's obvious how else would john and edward beat lucy, how else would katie beat everyone for 8 weeks, how did wagner get so far?.. But the finals always have the people who are great.. Anton got saved because he was sabotaged
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