[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It may be well said but it is a near slight on womens abilities as to multi tasking.
Women who breastfed their babies before ran homes and ran them to perfection, multi tasking every day and making sure all in the home was in order.

To feed a baby does not stop any woman 'thinking','talking' or 'hearing', that is all that is needed in the commons.
If you also seriously believe too that the vast majority of men and women in the Commons actually take much notice of what is said, and that they don't already know which way they will be voting anyway even before they go into the Commons,then you would get a massive shock to witness same.

in that case it would be fine for women to breast feed while doing open heart surgery or perhaps while driving a bus or a train? Concentration is required to do a job properly

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

in that case it would be fine for women to breast feed while doing open heart surgery or perhaps while driving a bus or a train? Concentration is required to do a job properly

In what universe are those comparable?...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

in that case it would be fine for women to breast feed while doing open heart surgery or perhaps while driving a bus or a train? Concentration is required to do a job properly

Well obviously not, since in all those things, they would 'need' their hands free to do all of them.
As to concentration,I can concentrate on what is going on around me and still watch the TV for instance.
I can decorate a room wile listening to music,ably concentrating on both things.
A Mother does not need her hands free to concentrate and listen and talk.

I work in Law, you are concentrating on any one case at a time but also still working through your mind the next ones coming up and even what happened in the one before.
The human brain is well able to concentrate on juggling 2 things at once and even much more than 2 as well.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well obviously not, since in all those things, they would 'need' their hands free to do all of them.
As to concentration,I can concentrate on what is going on around me and still watch the TV for instance.
I can decorate a room wile listening to music,ably concentrating on both things.
A Mother does not need her hands free to concentrate and listen and talk.

I work in Law, you are concentrating on any one case at a time but also still working through your mind the next ones coming up and even what happened in the one before.
The human brain is well able to concentrate on juggling 2 things at once and even much more than 2 as well.

With respect, Joey, that's nonsense. None of your examples equates at all to looking after a baby. I don't know anyone who could do their job at 100% capacity while looking after a baby. I can't see anyone else in their working environment putting up with it either. As cute as babies are I don't want them in my place of work.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

With respect, Joey, that's nonsense. None of your examples equates at all to looking after a baby. I don't know anyone who could do their job at 100% capacity while looking after a baby. I can't see anyone else in their working environment putting up with it either. As cute as babies are I don't want them in my place of work.

What pray is nonsense, that's a bit rude with respect.

I work in law and that is a job and I deal with 2,3.4 and more things at once.
Just what is nonsense and why get at me anyway, I answered bitontheslide who made a comparison as to driving a bus and open heart surgery,which have no comparison to feeding a baby and listening to what is going on.
That is not nonsense however is it not, so how is mine?

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What pray is nonsense, that's a bit rude with respect.

I work in law and that is a job and I deal with 2,3.4 and more things at once.
Just what is nonsense and why get at me anyway, I answered bitontheslide who made a comparison as to driving a bus and open heart surgery,which have no comparison to feeding a baby and listening to what is going on.
That is not nonsense however is it not, so how is mine?

with respect joey. You don't work on several things at the same time, you time slice. You can't concentrate on specific details of 2 cases at the same time. You work on 1 for a bit, work on the next for a bit etc. You cant think down 2 paths at exactly the same time.

In a real time environment, where information is being constantly sent out, you can't concentrate fully on what is being said and tend fully to the baby, you time slice. You may be aware of what is being said or what the baby is doing, but you cant actively engage in both at the same time

Sorry, but as has been said above, its not about being modern, pc or anything else, its about giving the task the capacity it deserves.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

with respect joey. You don't work on several things at the same time, you time slice. You can't concentrate on specific details of 2 cases at the same time. You work on 1 for a bit, work on the next for a bit etc. You cant think down 2 paths at exactly the same time.

In a real time environment, where information is being constantly sent out, you can't concentrate fully on what is being said and tend fully to the baby, you time slice. You may be aware of what is being said or what the baby is doing, but you cant actively engage in both at the same time

Sorry, but as has been said above, its not about being modern, pc or anything else, its about giving the task the capacity it deserves.

Sorry but with great respect,you clearly know little about law, you can be dealing with more than one case at a time even in different courts too, I talk about magistrates courts which is where my work is done.
Whereby you are even taking calls from others related to future cases coming up too while actively and fully proficiently preparing the case you are due in court with.

You have to multi task and must be able to deal with far more than one thing at a time.
I tell you with no hesitation there is a massive load of information fired at lawyers in courts and outside the court, that they have to not only take on board and concentrate on but in fact deal with too a lot of the time.
Papers are flung at you from all directions and not all just about one single case.

Work on 2 paths at a time, I wish, sometimes it is more like 3,4 and 5 paths I feel myself thinking on while working on in Law.

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry but you clearly know little about law, you can be dealing with more than one case at a time even in different courts too, I talk about magistrates courts which is where my work is done.
Whereby you are even taking calls from others related to future cases coming up too while actively and fully proficiently preparing the case you are due in court with.

You have to multi task and must be able to deal with far more than one thing at a time.
I tell you with no hesitation there is a massive load of information fired at lawyers in courts and outside the court, that they have to not only take on board and concentrate on but in fact deal with too a lot of the time.
Papers are flung at you from all directions and not all just about one single case.

Work on 2 paths at a time, I wish, sometimes it is more like 3,4 and 5 paths I feel myself thinking on while working on in Law.

I repeat again, your brain time slices, it cannot fully engage where concentration is required to do both tasks.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry but with great respect,you clearly know little about law, you can be dealing with more than one case at a time even in different courts too, I talk about magistrates courts which is where my work is done.
Whereby you are even taking calls from others related to future cases coming up too while actively and fully proficiently preparing the case you are due in court with.

You have to multi task and must be able to deal with far more than one thing at a time.
I tell you with no hesitation there is a massive load of information fired at lawyers in courts and outside the court, that they have to not only take on board and concentrate on but in fact deal with too a lot of the time.
Papers are flung at you from all directions and not all just about one single case.

Work on 2 paths at a time, I wish, sometimes it is more like 3,4 and 5 paths I feel myself thinking on while working on in Law.

Do you think you could do all that and care for a baby at the same time?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What pray is nonsense, that's a bit rude with respect.

I work in law and that is a job and I deal with 2,3.4 and more things at once.
Just what is nonsense and why get at me anyway, I answered bitontheslide who made a comparison as to driving a bus and open heart surgery,which have no comparison to feeding a baby and listening to what is going on.
That is not nonsense however is it not, so how is mine?

I thought it was nonsense that you likened decorating a room while listening to the radio, to doing a professional job while caring for a baby. I wasn't being intentionally rude, Joey.

No one sits at work and just listens to what's going on, what job allows you to do that? Who takes a child to work? Who works with anyone who takes a child to work? Why are we even discussing this when there are so many more valid issues? It's a time waster.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

I thought it was nonsense that you likened decorating a room while listening to the radio, to doing a professional job while caring for a baby. I wasn't being intentionally rude, Joey.

No one sits at work and just listens to what's going on, what job allows you to do that? Who takes a child to work? Who works with anyone who takes a child to work? Why are we even discussing this when there are so many more valid issues? It's a time waster.

The House of Commons does.
Often there are many in the chamber and very few are called to speak or even try to speak, all the rest are doing is listening, to the debate.
The only active bit comes at the very end when a division takes place and they have to actually then get up and go and vote through the lobbies.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The House of Commons does.
Often there are many in the chamber and very few are called to speak or even try to speak, all the rest are doing is listening, to the debate.
The only active bit comes at the very end when a division takes place and they have to actually then get up and go and vote through the lobbies.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The House of Commons does.
Often there are many in the chamber and very few are called to speak or even try to speak, all the rest are doing is listening, to the debate.
The only active bit comes at the very end when a division takes place and they have to actually then get up and go and vote through the lobbies.

But that is not their entire job, Joey. It's a tiny fraction of what an MP does as you know. But I'm not just referring to MPs, I'm asking... who is taking their baby to work? Who is employing someone to do a job, while they care for their child? To breast feeding in the Chamber you have to have your baby with you at work. If someone wants to breastfeed in the Stranger's Gallery that's an entirely different thing and as far as I'm concerned.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well obviously not, since in all those things, they would 'need' their hands free to do all of them.
As to concentration,I can concentrate on what is going on around me and still watch the TV for instance.
I can decorate a room wile listening to music,ably concentrating on both things.
A Mother does not need her hands free to concentrate and listen and talk.

I work in Law, you are concentrating on any one case at a time but also still working through your mind the next ones coming up and even what happened in the one before.
The human brain is well able to concentrate on juggling 2 things at once and even much more than 2 as well.

I agree with what you've said Joey....as a working mother myself, I work in a fairly stressful environment on multiple tasks whilst thinking about bills, football training, parents evening etc etc BUT I would not have had the ability to stimulate my child as he needed as a baby in a noisy work environment. Children need attention and stimulating in a calm environment, not in the hustle and bustle of a Commons session.