[Kizzy]

Don't worshippers of all faiths murmur under their breath?

[Livia]

What does that even mean?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

What does that even mean?

"this is our holy muslim mosque yada yada you cant stop us going here to murmur under our breaths"

It was a response to another comment.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Don't worshippers of all faiths murmur under their breath?

I think they do but then I am pretty sure that the, say, Anglicans dont have a terrorist wing that use religion to justify murder on a daily basis


They are more for whist drives

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think they do but then I am pretty sure that the, say, Anglicans dont have a terrorist wing that use religion to justify murder on a daily basis


They are more for whist drives

If you ignore inventing a religion, but that's another thread.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think they do but then I am pretty sure that the, say, Anglicans dont have a terrorist wing that use religion to justify murder on a daily basis


They are more for whist drives

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If you ignore inventing a religion, but that's another thread.

Yes, five hundred years ago. We're talking about now.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, five hundred years ago. We're talking about now.

Hang on isn't the whole reason for the fighting due to the land being a gift from god 1000s of years ago, if time is a factor then why is the land dispute relevant and me raising tithe wars not?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hang on isn't the whole reason for the fighting due to the land being a gift from god 1000s of years ago, if time is a factor then why is the land dispute relevant and me raising tithe wars not?

Wasnt it the British who gave them the land after the war?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Wasnt it the British who gave them the land after the war?

If the state of Israel hadn't been invented after the war, the Jews would still have gone there. For a lot of people the only thing that dragged them through the Holocaust was the thought of Israel. Nothing would have stopped them.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hang on isn't the whole reason for the fighting due to the land being a gift from god 1000s of years ago, if time is a factor then why is the land dispute relevant and me raising tithe wars not?

Do you think that there's any chance at all you could stick to the point? without opening up a myriad of subsidiary diversions?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Wasnt it the British who gave them the land after the war?

Apparently not, Livia said god gave them it, post colonialist attitudes can't compete with that.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Apparently not, Livia said god gave them it, post colonialist attitudes can't compete with that.

If you can't hold the obvious ridicule why don't you try Chat and Games?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Do you think that there's any chance at all you could stick to the point? without opening up a myriad of subsidiary diversions?

I was responding to points made by LT, I didn't raise Anglicanism.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

If you can't hold the obvious ridicule why don't you try Chat and Games?

Hang on, all I did was quote what you said in an earlier post.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

If the state of Israel hadn't been invented after the war, the Jews would still have gone there. For a lot of people the only thing that dragged them through the Holocaust was the thought of Israel. Nothing would have stopped them.

I know that but also we were involved and the UN its not like the jews just rocked up and said "right hoppit" to the locals!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hang on, all I did was quote what you said in an earlier post.

Try to stick to the point, Kizzy. I'm not doing this round in circles thing with you today.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I know that but also we were involved and the UN its not like the jews just rocked up and said "right hoppit" to the locals!

I see your point, LT. It did have international weight behind setting up the state.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Try to stick to the point, Kizzy. I'm not doing this round in circles thing with you today.

I will respond to posts as I see fit, I've done nothing wrong.

[kirklancaster]

Unless all the evidence from numerous historical sources - THOUSANDS of years old stelas among them - is forged ha ha, then ISRAEL existed for tens of centuries before the Romans re-named the area PALESTINIA as a sneering insult to the conquered Jews.

The Jewish religion - upon which Christianity is founded (Christ being a Jew) - is thousands of years older than Islam, and the TEMPLE MOUNT is called the TEMPLE MOUNT because that is the site of the TEMPLE OF SOLOMAN, which was built there thousands of years BEFORE ISLAM was invented by Muhammad let alone before any DOME OF THE ROCK had been built.

No one really GAVE the Jews ANYTHING - ISRAEL is theirs by birthright, historical possession and irrefutable evidence, and the Jews were merely returning to their OWN land.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I see your point, LT. It did have international weight behind setting up the state.

Did it create a Palestinian refugee crisis?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Unless all the evidence from numerous historical sources - THOUSANDS of years old stelas among them - is forged ha ha, then ISRAEL existed for tens of centuries before the Romans re-named the area PALESTINIA as a sneering insult to the conquered Jews.

The Jewish religion - upon which Christianity is founded (Christ being a Jew) - is thousands of years older than Islam, and the TEMPLE MOUNT is called the TEMPLE MOUNT because that is the site of the TEMPLE OF SOLOMAN, which was built there thousands of years BEFORE ISLAM was invented by Muhammad let alone before any DOME OF THE ROCK had been built.

No one really GAVE the Jews ANYTHING - ISRAEL is theirs by birthright, historical possession and irrefutable evidence, and the Jews were merely returning to their OWN land.

By the same token we could demand Africa as we all migrated from there 1000s of years ago, would that make us usurpers?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Did it create a Palestinian refugee crisis?

NO - The Arabs themselves created the 'Palestinian Refugee Crisis'.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

NO - The Arabs themselves created the 'Palestinian Refugee Crisis'.

How and why?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

By the same token we could demand Africa as we all migrated from there 1000s of years ago, would that make us usurpers?

No we could not, that is just ridiculous. A better analogy would be the Lakota Sioux Indians reclaiming Minnesota or Dakota from the all conquering savage 'palefaces' who lied and cheated and murdered and massacred their way to stealing those lands (and more) from them.