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Old 22-11-2015, 09:05 PM #1
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Yes, because I asked you how much of it you had watched to come to your views about how Songs of Praise is promo for Christianity.
I didnt need to watch too much to conclude that a broadcast of a religious ceremony was a celebration of Christianity.

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I take it that it was your own viewing of the programme that led you to your conclusion? Therefore I was questioning what it was about the show that fell into "promotion".
The fact that it was a Christian ceremony.

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I never said it was a "ratings winner" but it clearly has a loyal audience of Christians in this predominantly Christian country. Will there be many viewers for a show broadcasting a Buddhist mass in the UK, as an example? Doubtful.
I also doubt there are many Buddhists who converted after watching an advert in a cinema.

If you want religion go and find it. I dont think people should expect any religious coverage on Tv or in cinemas.
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I didnt need to watch too much to conclude that a broadcast of a religious ceremony was a celebration of Christianity.

The fact that it was a Christian ceremony.

I also doubt there are too many Buddhists who converted after watching an advert in a cinema.
An advert being entirely different to a "celebration of christianity".

The advert posted in the OP for commercial purposes is entirely different to a programme intended to be about christianity.

People tend to know what Songs of Praise is about so either are interested, watch it or don't bother with it. If its purpose is promotion then it's failed.

If its purpose is to provide a once a week show for people who enjoy it then it's done great for the last 54 years.
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An advert being entirely different to a "celebration of christianity".

The advert posted in the OP for commercial purposes is entirely different to a programme intended to be about christianity.

People tend to know what Songs of Praise is about so either are interested, watch it or don't bother with it. If its purpose is promotion then it's failed.

If its purpose is to provide a once a week show for people who enjoy it then it's done great for the last 54 years.
A celebration of a belief system is promotion of that belief system IMO
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A celebration of a belief system is promotion of that belief system IMO
Well, we'll agree to disagree.

However, if you believe that, it wouldn't even be intrusive promotion like the cinema ad proposed in the OP. So, what's wrong with it?

People still have the choice to watch it or not. SOP is not forced on anyone.

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Well, we'll agree to disagree.

However, if you believe that, it wouldn't even be intrusive promotion like the cinema ad proposed in the OP. So, what's wrong with it?

People still have the choice to watch it or not. SOP is not forced on anyone.
It kind of is, as its on terrestial TV in a decent spot.
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It kind of is, as its on terrestial TV in a decent spot.
I don't agree with that,there are hundreds of TV channels,plus a off and on switch,so how is that anyway 'forced'?
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I don't agree with that,there are hundreds of TV channels,plus a off and on switch,so how is that anyway 'forced'?
Its on the countires main channel for entertainment.
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It kind of is, as its on terrestial TV in a decent spot.
Because the only option for anyone to do at 4pm on a Sunday is watch BBC One?

When they could watch any of the hundreds of other channels or take part in anything in their life that may not involve television?

I suppose Eastenders being given a decent spot four times a week is forcing people to watch soap operas too?
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Because the only option for anyone to do at 4pm on a Sunday is watch BBC One?

When they could watch any of the hundreds of other channels or take part in anything in their life that may not involve television?

I suppose Eastenders being given a decent spot four times a week is forcing people to watch soap operas too?
People have loads of options but on the main terrestrial channels at around the time of evening mass is a religious ceremony. I'm sure its just a a coincidence.
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If you want religion go and find it. I dont think people should expect any religious coverage on Tv or in cinemas.
In that vein, if people want to enjoy a murder mystery they should go and find it. Why should it be covered on TV or in cinemas for people to choose to enjoy it?

Again, I always thought religious people were the intolerant ones.
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In that vein, if people want to enjoy a murder mystery they should go and find it. Why should it be covered on TV or in cinemas for people to choose to enjoy it?

Again, I always thought religious people were the intolerant ones.
We're now right back to where we started. Murder mystery is definitely fiction and is never promoted as true, religious teachings are promoted as true.
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We're now right back to where we started. Murder mystery is definitely fiction and is never promoted as true, religious teachings are promoted as true.
Yeah, I'm always seeing trailers on BBC One advertising the "truth" on SOP every Sunday. Telling everyone who thinks any differently they are wrong.

Oh wait, they don't.

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Yeah, I'm always seeing trailers on BBC One advertising the "truth" on SOP every Sunday. Telling everyone who thinks any differently they are wrong.

Oh wait, they don't.
Again, not sure how you got there
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Again, not sure how you got there
Songs of Praise is promoting Christianity as true and real?
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You made the Murder Mystery analogy.
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