[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

We already had a price on our heads 7/7, Lee Rigby and all the thwarted attempts? We have been on high alert for months nothing has changed

That was way before the evolution into 'Daesh' I suspect a revenge attack from them would be worse than anything we have seen.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Don't be ridiculous TS. The isn't Chat and Games.

Isn't it Livia? It looks a lot like war-games to me.

And I don't say that lightly or flippantly. It's ****ing horrendous. I try my very best to laugh because otherwise... Well. Otherwise, is all.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't know the plan. And furthermore, even if I did I wouldn't be writing it on a Big Brother forum. We're not supposed to know the plan or what would be the point?

I know we aren't but is it so secret that only dave knows?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

That was way before the evolution into 'Daesh' I suspect a revenge attack from them would be worse than anything we have seen.

IS, ISIS, ISIL, or DAESH - they are still just the same turds. Why would a revenge attack by the same terrorists under a different stupid name be worse than anything we've seen?

Do you envisage Jihadists stepping into phone boxes and coming out dressed in a blue cape and Superman outfit then flying into the sky faster than a speeding bullet?

These scumbags are weaker and more desperate now, but our Intelligence Services are already well aware of the degree of vigilence they need to keep one step ahead of them.

Certain people are all too ready to attribute the lack of any ISIS Paris-style atrocities in the UK to the 'niceness' of our Corbyn-style 'friends' ISIS themselves, rather than give credit where it is due - to our Intelligence Services.

Don't fool yourselves - if it wasn't for our intelligence services we would all have witnessed more than one such attack.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

That was way before the evolution into 'Daesh' I suspect a revenge attack from them would be worse than anything we have seen.

I think it was on the cards whichever way the vote went, there was no right or wrong way for the vote to go as there were compelling arguments on both sides, I think if it were a no vote we were still likely to be attacked as they would want to show that whatever happened they would attack anyway, it's just a question of where and when now.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

I think it was on the cards whichever way the vote went, there was no right or wrong way for the vote to go as there were compelling arguments on both sides, I think if it were a no vote we were still likely to be attacked as they would want to show that whatever happened they would attack anyway, it's just a question of where and when now.

I could not agree more Cherie.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

IS, ISIS, ISIL, or DAESH - they are still just the same turds. Why would a revenge attack by the same terrorists under a different stupid name be worse than anything we've seen?

Do you envisage Jihadists stepping into phone boxes and coming out dressed in a blue cape and Superman outfit then flying into the sky faster than a speeding bullet?

These scumbags are weaker and more desperate now, but our Intelligence Services are already well aware of the degree of vigilence they need to keep one step ahead of them.

Certain people are all too ready to attribute the lack of any ISIS Paris-style atrocities in the UK to the 'niceness' of our Corbyn-style 'friends' ISIS themselves, rather than give credit where it is due - to our Intelligence Services.

Don't fool yourselves - if it wasn't for our intelligence services we would all have witnessed more than one such attack.

You've been hanging round TS too long.. ( love you TS xxx)

Defence works, so now we have to double our efforts to attack and defend simultaneously... hope we are capable.

Who are these certain people who question the might of our intelligence services and consider ISIS 'nice' for not attempting to attack the UK?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

I think it was on the cards whichever way the vote went, there was no right or wrong way for the vote to go as there were compelling arguments on both sides, I think if it were a no vote we were still likely to be attacked as they would want to show that whatever happened they would attack anyway, it's just a question of where and when now.

Perhaps, we will never know that now, as any attack from now on in will be in the name of revenge.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

I know we aren't but is it so secret that only dave knows?

Kizzy, there are set methods on how these things are planned,

To start with, they will identify a list of assets that ISIS have that provide them an advantage or protection. Those assets are then graded by their type, their value, their difficulty in being attacked, their location etc

Each day, the potential targets will be identified based on the latest intelligence gathered. This intelligence comes from a variety of sources including eye witnesses, drone flights, footage from missions, reconnaissance missions to name a few

Depending on the circumstances, the targets are then allocated and the alliance members given their role.

This set of procedures is repeated over and over

The detailed plans will never be published as to do so puts those involved in the missions at risk

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

Kizzy, there are set methods on how these things are planned,

To start with, they will identify a list of assets that ISIS have that provide them an advantage or protection. Those assets are then graded by their type, their value, their difficulty in being attacked, their location etc

Each day, the potential targets will be identified based on the latest intelligence gathered. This intelligence comes from a variety of sources including eye witnesses, drone flights, footage from missions, reconnaissance missions to name a few

Depending on the circumstances, the targets are then allocated and the alliance members given their role.

This set of procedures is repeated over and over

The detailed plans will never be published as to do so puts those involved in the missions at risk

Oh then what was all the confusion deliberation and debate about then?.... You make it sound so simple.

[Denver]

We are doing it right though as France are attacking IS strongholds and Russia are attacking anyone who disagrees with Putin's Puppet the best thing for the UK to do is hit it where it hurts and take away their valuable assets such as oil

[bots]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

Oh then what was all the confusion deliberation and debate about then?.... You make it sound so simple.

These things are not just random, they are thoroughly planned. I had to provide some detail as its clear from this thread many just don't understand what goes on.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Donder Kebab

We are doing it right though as France are attacking IS strongholds and russian are attacking anyone who disagrees with Putin Puppet the best thing for the UK to do is hit it where it hurts and take away there valuable assets such as oil

I agree with you Adam.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

These things are not just random, they are thoroughly planned. I had to provide some detail as its clear from this thread many just don't understand what goes on.

I thought only military strategists knew what was going on?.... unless...* taps nose*

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

I thought only military strategists knew what was going on?.... unless...* taps nose*

You don't have to know all the details to have an idea of how something works. It's not all or nothing.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by NanaChristmas

Rather them bombing the oilfields and taking the funding away from IS than bombing homes with the scumbags hiding like the sewer rats they are underneath.
No doubt this strategy will have been worked out over a period of time in the hope of winning the vote.

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Sounds like it was successful.Hopefully a few terrorists were slaughtered along with their oil.

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

That airstrike on the oil field has probably just stopped thousands of Dollars getting into the hands of ISIS and possibly killed a few terrorists.Now multiply that by hundreds or thousands of oil fields or strongholds and it has a massive effect.It is wrong to say that we are not contributing much to this campaign.

This still affects the innocent syrian people in a bad way, they need oil to heat their homes and run vehicles in their day to day lives, so imo it's a very bad idea, as well as further provoking ISIS to retaliate with a revenge attack it's going to cause more resentment towards us from syrian people escalating the chance of creating more extremists in the future.

[Josy]

Not sure what's going on with the quotes in my post

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

You don't have to know all the details to have an idea of how something works. It's not all or nothing.

So you're suggesting BOTS knows something then?
Even that is highly unlikely in this instance.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

So you're suggesting BOTS knows something then?
Even that is highly unlikely in this instance.

Sorry you're coming in garbled.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~

This still affects the innocent syrian people in a bad way, they need oil to heat their homes and run vehicles in their day to day lives, so imo it's a very bad idea, as well as further provoking ISIS to retaliate with a revenge attack it's going to cause more resentment towards us from syrian people escalating the chance of creating more extremists in the future.

When the allies bombed Dresden in WW2, Jewish slaves cheered the allied bombers while knowing they could be killed at any moment. Military actions are much more precise now, but in any case I think Syrian people who are currently living with the threat of IS will welcome the fact that the world is trying to rid them of the scum that is Islamic State.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

So you're suggesting BOTS knows something then?
Even that is highly unlikely in this instance.

The procedures I detailed are common knowledge. No insider information required

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~

This still affects the innocent syrian people in a bad way, they need oil to heat their homes and run vehicles in their day to day lives, so imo it's a very bad idea, as well as further provoking ISIS to retaliate with a revenge attack it's going to cause more resentment towards us from syrian people escalating the chance of creating more extremists in the future.

That is a very valid point but then i think one has to weigh up the options.Which is the worst option of the two.
Should we just do nothing and let IS continue making money from stolen oil and grow their Islamic State even more because the Syrian people will be affected?

Or stop the illegal trade and stop the money getting into terrorist hands and taking over even more land and using more sophosticated weaponary purchased with their loot.

I would argue that the Syrian people are already being affected by this.They are being tortured,beheaded,kidnapped etc and having their oil supply controlled by terrorists who are more than likely ripping them off.
I think doing nothing is the worst thing we can do.

We are already a target from IS now.Not joining the fight won't change that imo.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

The procedures I detailed are common knowledge. No insider information required

Deliberate obtusity is a debating tool on here.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Sorry you're coming in garbled.

Let me explain... if if it's not all or nothing it must be something?

'These things are not just random, they are thoroughly planned. I had to provide some detail as its clear from this thread many just don't understand what goes on.'

What detail of military strategy is bots privvy to?...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Deliberate obtusity is a debating tool on here.

obfuscation is the biggest problem I'd say.