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Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

I think it's a bit rich to accuse people of crowing TS when your own posts come across a little more than smug.

Comfortably a self-assured arsehole fanks for yrr concern . It's what happens when you're consistently always right forever, as you will see in a couple of years when I am inevitably also right about this and everyone in their dog is lining up to talk about Cameron's dodgy dossier and the disaster of the campaign in Syria a-la-Blair/Iraq. I will say I told you so, and I would be lying if I said I won't get any enjoyment out of doing so.

We elect people to make these decisions for us

I did not elect these people. I do not accept the will of the idiots who did.

if it went to referendum it might not have been so clear cut as a lot of people can see pros and cons in both approaches, the vote was out of our hands so there is little point crying about what might have been

If it went to referendum it would have gone the same way because, consistently, when the government runs a campaign leveraging people's fears (Scottish indy, 2015 General Election) people will vote accordingly. Those in power would have scared people into voting for action. See above re: idiots and me not accepting their will.

no one wants civilian casualties

Not about wanting them, there are plenty of people however who don't care very much about them (if they are not British, American, Australian, French, or other "folks like us"). People care more about 100 civilian casualties in Paris than they do about 5000 in the Middle East. This is painfully evident. No one "wants them" - they just fail to give it much actual thought.

but no one wants the world we live in currently either

Agreed, however

and don't want to take this kids to shopping centres or crowded places just in case"

I don't and never will live like this, because I have a rational understanding of risk and know that my children are more at risk every time they cross a road than they are in a shopping center. I will not be sucked in by fear propaganda as that is exactly "what the terrorists want" - just as they want us to start dropping bombs. It all helps them. It's a mind game and every time someone buys into it they further a problem that will never (ever) be solved with guns, bombs or bullets.

Finally - I don't know what the solution is either. I don't think there is one. See above, re: idiots. ISIS idiots, Western idiots, human idiots like dogs fighting over the meaningless bones of a long-broken world.