[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

No, vigilant lady who is aware of terrorist threat posed by some Muslims in the UK

Cant be too careful as terrorists do not wear badges saying I am a terrorist

What about the non-Muslim terrorists? Or what about the countless other violent crimes committed on a seemingly daily basis by white people? Please tell me why it's only Muslims causing the worry.

It's ignorance and, frankly, borderline racism as far as I'm concerned.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Frostie!

What about the non-Muslim terrorists? Or what about the countless other violent crimes committed on a seemingly daily basis by white people? Please tell me why it's only Muslims causing the worry.

It's ignorance and, frankly, borderline racism as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by JoshBB

This is the start of fascism. Look at Nazi Germany, fear and scaremongering around Jews.. discrimination shrugged under the rug. I honestly can't believe people are repeating the exact same thing but to another religious group.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Frostie!

What about the non-Muslim terrorists? Or what about the countless other violent crimes committed on a seemingly daily basis by white people? Please tell me why it's only Muslims causing the worry.

It's ignorance and, frankly, borderline racism as far as I'm concerned.

sorry what terrorists do you refer too that are threatening the UK at this very moment that are non-muslim?

[Cherry Christmas]

The woman should have been asked to leave the coach instead if the only issue was his religion

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas

The woman should have been asked to leave the coach instead if the only issue was his religion

no he had lots of luggage and refused to put it in the hold. I would have been worried to. Well done to the driver to get him off.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

no he had lots of luggage and refused to put it in the hold. I would have been worried to. Well done to the driver to get him off.

Well I'm not gonna be a hypocrite here so I agree with this decision IF he refused to let them search through his luggage as the National Express can't take the risk of him being a psychopath that puts every one on board at risk of losing their lives.

I say this for Muslims and non-Muslims.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

sorry what terrorists do you refer too that are threatening the UK at this very moment that are non-muslim?

What is domestic extremism?

Domestic extremism mainly refers to individuals or groups that carry out criminal acts of direct action in pursuit of a campaign. They usually aim to prevent something from happening or to change legislation or domestic policy, but try to do so outside of the normal democratic process. They are motivated by domestic causes other than the dispute over Northern Ireland’s status.

At various times in the recent past, a range of groups have fallen into this category. They have included violent Scottish and Welsh nationalists, right- and left-wing extremists, animal rights extremists and other militant single-issue protesters.

The vast majority of people involved in animal rights, nationalist and political campaigns are peaceful. However, such causes have sometimes attracted extremists who have resorted to violence and intimidation. For example, some extremist animal rights campaigners have attacked property and made threats of violence. They have also posted hoax bombs to homes and offices as part of organised campaigns against animal-testing companies.

Domestic extremists may seek to carry out solo acts of violence. In 1999, David Copeland, a neo-Nazi, carried out a series of bomb attacks against gay and ethnic minority targets in London. His attacks killed three people and injured 129 more.
Countering domestic extremism

For the most part the actions of domestic extremists pose a threat to public order, but not to national security. They are normally investigated by the police, not MI5.

The National Domestic Extremism and Disorder Intelligence Unit, formerly known as the National Domestic Extremism Unit, continues to take the lead in setting the strategic national direction for domestic extremism intelligence and supports UK police forces in tackling these threats.

The NDEDIU remains part of the SO15 Counter Terrorism Command under the existing Metropolitan Police lead force arrangements.

LINK

[bots]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

LINK

yes, but who other than extremist muslims are a domestic terrorist threat in the UK at the present time?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

yes, but who other than extremist muslims are a domestic terrorist threat in the UK at the present time?

From the link.

At various times in the recent past, a range of groups have fallen into this category. They have included violent Scottish and Welsh nationalists, right- and left-wing extremists, animal rights extremists and other militant single-issue protesters.

[bots]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

From thge link.

none of those are active at the present time or indescriminate in their attacks.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

none of those are active at the present time or indescriminate in their attacks.

How are you sure?

[Suze]

This seems way over the top, but also disgusting to say the least if thrown off for no other reason than that. But surely they can't just throw them off for that? so either there is more to this re the news item or something was looked for to use as an excuse to throw them off.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

none of those are active at the present time or indescriminate in their attacks.

'Ministers must not ignore the growing threat of violence from far-right extremists in Britain in the wake of ISIS terrorism and crimes involving UK Muslims, a senior Home Office adviser said today.
The anonymous expert on right-wing extremism warned that the Government is putting an emphasis on the ‘global jihadist agenda’ while possibly ignoring the growth of the far-right at home.
The adviser warned of the importance of preventing a violent attack being carried out by the far-right in Britain in the future.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...wake-ISIS.html

Next month, the former leader of the English Defence League, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, often known by the pseudonym Tommy Robinson, will make his political comeback by fronting the relaunch of the UK arm of Pegida, the German anti-Islam organisation whose provocative rhetoric has prompted attacks on refugees

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ural-civil-war

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

sorry what terrorists do you refer too that are threatening the UK at this very moment that are non-muslim?

Terrorists are constantly a threat, not just the ones currently making headlines. One group being the most prominent doesn't suddenly erase the existence of others.

And care to address the point of other acts of violence that are constantly being committed even by non-Muslims? We seem to hear about a new murder every day. Why exactly is having a Muslim removed from a coach at all a realistic step in remaining safer?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Frostie!

Terrorists are constantly a threat, not just the ones currently making headlines. One group being the most prominent doesn't suddenly erase the existence of others.

And care to address the point of other acts of violence that are constantly being committed even by non-Muslims? We seem to hear about a new murder every day. Why exactly is having a Muslim removed from a coach at all a realistic step in remaining safer?

i have no idea what your point is about random murders in the UK and the threat of an ISIS type terror attack?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

i have no idea what your point is about random murders in the UK and the threat of an ISIS type terror attack?

My point (which I thought was crystal clear ) is that an ISIS type terror attack isn't the only potential violent crime we're in danger of falling victim to and treating all Muslims (and only Muslims) like potential murderers is absurd and a shameful example of bigotry.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Frostie!

My point (which I thought was crystal clear ) is that an ISIS type terror attack isn't the only potential violent crime we're in danger of falling victim to and treating all Muslims (and only Muslims) like potential murderers is absurd and a shameful example of bigotry.

there would be no problem if muslim terrorists were not killing people in the name of Islam

blame the source

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

there would be no problem if muslim terrorists were not killing people in the name of Islam

blame the source

Yeah sorry Mock but use your noddle a bit