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Old 15-12-2015, 09:08 AM #27
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I find it personally asonishing that certain Labour supporters ARE so blinded by their detestation of Cameron and the Tory party, that they illogically continue to be so ferevently supportive of Corbyn.
Then you don't fully grasp just how much damage Camerosborne have been doing to some people and families... I think can be the only answer to that.

As for the rest of it, I don't really know / haven't looked into it, but I would say that it sounds like a lot of conclusions are being jumped to based on very flimsy logic.

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a) Corbyn was a politician of many years standing - a holder of Public Office.
Yes true but as has been pointed out, MPs often (and indeed, are supposed to) get involved in things on behalf of their constituents if they are approached. They are after all, elected by those people AS a representative. People write to their MPs about all sorts of things looking for support. He may have given support a bit TOO freely without enough examination... but that's hardly unique to him, or to MPs.

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b) Corbyn was a close friend of Dahir's family.
According to... Dahir's family? And anecdotes in the gutter press? I'm not saying it isn't possible but I'd need a little more evidence than that.

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c) Corbyn KNEW that Dahir was charged with swindling the life savings of old aged pensioners.
He knew what he was accused of. We operate on a system of "innocent until proven guilty", so that's not really relevant.

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d) Corbyn still elected to involve himself on behalf of Dahir.
Well that's just a statement of fact so I can hardly argue with that...



I've said before - I'm not a Corbynite or a Labour voter. They haven't been for decades, and likely won't be again, much better for normal working people in the UK than the Tories are. Slightly better for the worst off, which is something, but not much.

However, I know a smear campaign when I see one and Corbyn is being plastered all over the walls, ceiling and floor. There's a reason for that, a political one, and it's not because he "really really is an actual Muslim terrorist in disguise"... the idea is utterly insane. It's just not true. And the constant stream of hyperbole-jammed news stories really, truly are - genuinely - little more than propaganda.

I doubt the man is a saint. I find many of his ideas to be simplistically idealistic and just not feasible, also. However - he isn't a jihadist in support of ISIS. He just isn't. Come on. If you trust our ever-wonderful Intelligence Services to catch out little groups of suicide bombers planning attacks out of their living room, then you HAVE to trust that they haven't somehow slipped up and allowed a closet terrorist to become the leader of the main opposition party to government. It would be like something out of a DC comic. "Muahahahahaaaa Batman!! I had a Nuke surgically implanted in my belly all along and now that I am in No.10 I will blow a crater in the middle of London!! Muaaaaahahahaheeheeeee"

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