[Kizzy]

'A light show at the Arc de Triomphe will be cut back and booze restricted'

How will this counter terrorism?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'A light show at the Arc de Triomphe will be cut back and booze restricted'

How will this counter terrorism?

The shorter a duration that an event is which draws masses of people together, then the less opportunity for any terrorists to have such a huge static target.

Intoxicated people are notoriously much more difficult to control should evacuation procedures become necessary, or if panic sets in - especially when en masse.

It all makes perfect sense to me.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

The shorter a duration that an event is which draws masses of people together, then the less opportunity for any terrorists to have such a huge static target.

Intoxicated people are notoriously much more difficult to control should evacuation procedures become necessary, or if panic sets in - especially when en masse.

It all makes perfect sense to me.

Obviously this is correct and makes sense in terms of safety, however, overwhelmingly the feeling I get from it is that basically what we're seeing is people voluntarily (or not?) limiting their freedom and their enjoyment of life based on fear...

And is that not the goal? To put restrictions on our freedoms and decadence? To see us all on tighter leashes?

Isn't it just holding up a huge banner to any Jihad Joe saying "Hey check it out guys! Your attacks really do work, we're changing and restricting our lives because we fear you."

It doesn't seem right to force these restrictions, I guess is all I'm saying. Make the events adults only, make it clear to people that there may be risks, and then leave it up to individuals whether they want to play it safe, or want to go out, have a massive party, stick two fingers up and shout "I'm not afraid of you, I won't change my life for you."

I have to be honest and say that I'd rather be blown to bits doing that, than die an old man cowering in a bunker.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Obviously this is correct and makes sense in terms of safety, however, overwhelmingly the feeling I get from it is that basically what we're seeing is people voluntarily (or not?) limiting their freedom and their enjoyment of life based on fear...

And is that not the goal? To put restrictions on our freedoms and decadence? To see us all on tighter leashes?

Isn't it just holding up a huge banner to any Jihad Joe saying "Hey check it out guys! Your attacks really do work, we're changing and restricting our lives because we fear you."

It doesn't seem right to force these restrictions, I guess is all I'm saying. Make the events adults only, make it clear to people that there may be risks, and then leave it up to individuals whether they want to play it safe, or want to go out, have a massive party, stick two fingers up and shout "I'm not afraid of you, I won't change my life for you."

I have to be honest and say that I'd rather be blown to bits doing that, than die an old man cowering in a bunker.

I actually am with you on this - I would not personally change my plans or routine, but I was just answering Kizzy's questions as to how the authorities measures aided 'Counter Terrorism'.

And as I said - from their POV it all makes perfect sense to me.