[Ninastar]

Youtube video

I get goosebumps every time I listen to this video. Prince Ea is absolutely brilliant. I think he's one of my favourite 'speakers' of all time. The video from about halfway onwards, is just absolutely incredible.

I love him because he acknowledges the fact that bad attitudes and society make us choose how we act towards ourselves and others. And I love how he says that only we can change this by being open minded and not falling subject to these labels... Oh he's just so brilliant.

[Kizzy]

Yes it was people that have their statues over our great institutions that created these lables, Thank you Mr Rhodes.

[Ninastar]

Exactly, and that's history and now it's up to us to modernize our beliefs.

[Kizzy]

While we literally 'look up' to white supremacists?... It's a nice ideal, but I just can't see it happening.

[Ninastar]

no, not look up to... look past

[Kizzy]

Oh ignore me I'm feeling extra cynical today, post Christmas blues

[Northern Monkey]

Beautiful.However it ignores one thing.It is in our very core as intelligent beings to label things,People,animals,towns,cities,countries,the sky,the universe etc....
It is one of the things which sets us apart and makes us human and it is.......
Language.
It is not in our nature to label everything except other humans.Maybe we have'nt evolved enough and maybe we never will.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

While we literally 'look up' to white supremacists?... It's a nice ideal, but I just can't see it happening.

WHO "looks up to white supremists"?

Define and identify.

To keep tediously quoting Cecil Rhodes on every thread and making up false accusations concerning him, is to ignore ALL the many arguments and corroboration that Oxford University did NOT erect his statue as any kind of commemoration of his 'imperialism' but in recognition of their 'Lion's' share of the billion pounds he left as a charitable foundation to provide FREE education for poor students - INCLUDING BLACK STUDENTS FROM THE COLONIES.

I asked in that thread for anyone to name ONE super rich BLACK person who has donated anywhere near a billion pounds as any type of similar foundation but - predictably received no answers, so I will ask you here if you can provide an answer. Google is welcome.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Beautiful.However it ignores one thing.It is in our very core as intelligent beings to label things,People,animals,towns,cities,countries,the sky,the universe etc....
It is one of the things which sets us apart and makes us human and it is.......
Language.
It is not in our nature to label everything except other humans.Maybe we have'nt evolved enough and maybe we never will.

Weirdly enough I also agree with this. We are who we are, yet we can change that and not be what everyone thinks we are, is what I got from the video. I also believe that we are born to judge and nothing will change that. We are born to judge, but we can change it so that we 'judge' people in good ways and see that people can change their ways (for the most part lol)

[kirklancaster]

Oh, and I forgot - A terrific video Caitlin. Brilliant.

[Ninastar]

thats what i thought!!!!

[Jamie89]

I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with attaching labels to things/people, in a descriptive sense; it's just part of how our brains work. The problem is how you use labels. If you're using them as a way of defining yourself, or how you are going to treat other people, then that's not good, but that's more to do with people being stupid/ignorant. Labels are fine as long as they're seen for what they are, and are taken as a simplistic method of describing someone, rather than being taken as a way of defining a person.
The message in the video though, is of course a really a positive one, and if it influences people to treat each other better then I applaud it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I asked in that thread for anyone to name ONE super rich BLACK person who has donated anywhere near a billion pounds as any type of similar foundation but - predictably received no answers, so I will ask you here if you can provide an answer. Google is welcome.

"Of the 1,826 people who made it to the 2015 FORBES list of the World’s Billionaires, 11 of them are black."

... ... so there's always that to factor in, Kirk.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

WHO "looks up to white supremists"?

Define and identify.

To keep tediously quoting Cecil Rhodes on every thread and making up false accusations concerning him, is to ignore ALL the many arguments and corroboration that Oxford University did NOT erect his statue as any kind of commemoration of his 'imperialism' but in recognition of their 'Lion's' share of the billion pounds he left as a charitable foundation to provide FREE education for poor students - INCLUDING BLACK STUDENTS FROM THE COLONIES.

I asked in that thread for anyone to name ONE super rich BLACK person who has donated anywhere near a billion pounds as any type of similar foundation but - predictably received no answers, so I will ask you here if you can provide an answer. Google is welcome.

We as a collective nation not we as individuals.
I thought the comparison apt to the topic, not sure why your shouting.
As seen in the research Rhodes did not provide the assistance for black south African colonists, which was the point I was making in the other thread.
Whether or not there has been any 'super rich' black benefactors is as irrelevant here as it was on the other thread imo.
As I don't have any innate knowledge of history I do look to google, it's a valuable resource.