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Old 09-01-2016, 04:03 PM #126
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Think this is a VERY unfair comment here mind Jack. I think Winston was treat appallingly and blatantly set up for the fall. I disagree completely with his views too. And gay people do not scare me either.
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She backtracked on it when actually speaking to him. A big fuss about nothing...
It was shown on the highlights that he was leering.
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It was shown on the highlights that he was leering.
He wasnt doing a good job of it considering he was shouting her name at the same time. To me he was wanting to apolgise and explain himself from their earlier discussion about him refusing to share a bed with a man.
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I don't get why she didn't actually speak to him about it either, she is not exactly backwards in coming forwards. Also she made out as if it wasn't even an issue when it was spoken about outside of the diary room?


Sorry, on this one I actually do agree with Winston. If you are so concerned about men looking at you when you undress, do not undress infront of a room full of them. Its quite simple really...

And I don't think this is sexist either before that starts, as I would think the exact same if a guy was moaning about one of the girls 'leering' at him while he got changed in the middle of the main room.
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I don't even agree with gay marriage.
Why should anyone be denied a human right because the way they were born though? It's saying that 2 people can't legalize their love and commitment to sharing their life with each other because they were born 'different' to what society deems as acceptable. Isn't that just cruel?
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Why should anyone be denied a human right because the way they were born though? It's saying that 2 people can't legalize their love and commitment to sharing their life with each other because they were born 'different' to what society deems as acceptable. Isn't that just cruel?
Your post assumes people are born gay and it also assumes that marriage is a "human right." I disagree with both.

Naughty me. Emma should come and give a good patronising telling off.
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Your post assumes people are born gay and it also assumes that marriage is a "human right." I disagree with both.

Naughty me. Emma should come and give a good patronising telling off.
I'm not assuming anything. Sexual orientation is largely or entirely determined by our genes and hormonal influences in the womb.
There are wide-ranging evidence from dozens of scientific studies on homosexuality. They conclude that sexual orientation is overwhelmingly innate.
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I'm not assuming anything. Sexual orientation is largely or entirely determined by our genes and hormonal influences in the womb.
There are wide-ranging evidence from dozens of scientific studies on homosexuality. They conclude that sexual orientation is overwhelmingly innate.

Being innate doesn't make something desirable.
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I'm not assuming anything. Sexual orientation is largely or entirely determined by our genes and hormonal influences in the womb.
There are wide-ranging evidence from dozens of scientific studies on homosexuality. They conclude that sexual orientation is overwhelmingly innate.
I disagree, I know quite a few gay men who have had happy marriages and have kids but they turned very late in life. God only knows why but I am sure there are a few experts on here that will put me right.
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Being innate doesn't make something desirable.
It being innate means they should have the same human rights as heterosexuals as they didn't choose their sexual orientation.
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I disagree, I know quite a few gay men who have had happy marriages and have kids but they turned very late in life. God only knows why but I am sure there are a few experts on here that will put me right.
That's called denial and being in the closet.
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It being innate means they should have the same human rights as heterosexuals as they didn't choose their sexual orientation.
But I have seen research showing that psychopathy is innate. Should psychopaths have all their human rights and be kept out of jail because they didn't choose to be psychopaths?
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I disagree, I know quite a few gay men who have had happy marriages and have kids but they turned very late in life. God only knows why but I am sure there are a few experts on here that will put me right.
Thats true Sam i too know lots of "Gay" men who have had children, therefore kicking out "You can't help the way you are born " BS
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I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?
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I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?
Same here, Ive popped the kettle on in case she calls in mine ,Im very sociable
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I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.
And I think that sums you up...
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But I have seen research showing that psychopathy is innate. Should psychopaths have all their human rights and be kept out of jail because they didn't choose to be psychopaths?
Dear God, why are you comparing psychopaths to gay people? Psychopaths are a danger to others so I don't get your point AT ALL.
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I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?
Would you ever think of challenging your own beliefs by doing some research on the subject?
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I don't get why she didn't actually speak to him about it either, she is not exactly backwards in coming forwards. Also she made out as if it wasn't even an issue when it was spoken about outside of the diary room?


Sorry, on this one I actually do agree with Winston. If you are so concerned about men looking at you when you undress, do not undress infront of a room full of them. Its quite simple really...

And I don't think this is sexist either before that starts, as I would think the exact same if a guy was moaning about one of the girls 'leering' at him while he got changed in the middle of the main room.
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Dear God, why are you comparing psychopaths to gay people? Psychopaths are a danger to others so I don't get your point AT ALL.
Sigh.
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Would you ever think of challenging your own beliefs by doing some research on the subject?
What research would you suggest?
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Sigh.
As you have nothing to say, I take it you have come to your senses.
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Could you point me to the research papers you have read?
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