[Shaun]

Am I the only one tired of all these posts about Judaism/Zionism?

[rex3]

anyway ... Zionism doesnt just involve Israel, there must be countries that help make Israel, and you might think why do these countries bother with other peoples interests?

[rex3]

Zionist Jews are just as Violent as those Palestinian millitants trying to get there land back

[Lauren]

Originally posted by rex3
Zionist Jews are just as Violent as those Palestinian millitants trying to get there land back

I know, that was my point. I was saying the violence seems to be focused on Jews (and your point was that it was the majority of Jews, which it is not). Also, again... it's subjective to say the Palestinian militants are trying to get their land back.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Lauren

I know, that was my point. I was saying the violence seems to be focused on Jews (and your point was that it was the majority of Jews, which it is not). Also, again... it's subjective to say the Palestinian militants are trying to get their land back.

what time line do you have in mind when saying its subjective that palestinians want there land back.

Are you thinking about BC up to now?

coz if you are then than its not subjective for the red indiands to come back with military equipment and whipe away the americans so they can claim there land back.

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by rex3

what time line do you have in mind when saying its subjective that palestinians want there land back.

Are you thinking about BC up to now?

coz if you are then than its not subjective for the red indiands to come back with military equipment and whipe away the americans so they can claim there land back.

I notice you still do not retract the wildly innacurate statements you make that you use to shore up your house of cards arguments, this one for instance

Originally posted by rex3
the Majority of JEWS in this WORLD are now in ISRAEL!

Untrue in Goebellesque proportions - yet you plough on regardless with your anti- isreali tirades.

You hoping some of it will stick in the minds of those less informed ?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Untrue in Goebellesque proportions

Exactly what I was going to say. Rex, your posts remind me of propaganda. You state subjective opinions and claim they're "facts".

[rex3]

What so you cant have Zionist-Jews in America?

OK i will go with what ever you gotta say, whethere or not Jews are mostly in America, so what.

[rex3]

America is the biggest aid to Israel and is continuing to help Israel create there country whilst the Palestinians are subjected to a life of misery,

it recieves $3 a year from America more than any African country, there are millions of official and unofficials sources to this: http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats...of_israel.html

[spitfire]

Originally posted by rex3
America is the biggest aid to Israel and is continuing to help Israel create there country whilst the Palestinians are subjected to a life of misery,

it recieves $3 a year from America more than any African country, there are millions of official and unofficials sources to this: http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats...of_israel.html

Isnt $3 about £1.50?

[rex3]

Originally posted by spitfire

Isnt $3 about £1.50?

lol sorry i meant $3 billion

[the_chosen_one]

Rex, well done for raising awareness about these issues. I've noticed the subject has been at the top of the post chart over the past couple of days, and people obviously don't like to accept these things are happening...e.g.

Originally posted by bugsy2301
Am I the only one tired of all these posts about Judaism/Zionism?

....but well done all the same.

[rex3]

thanks man, its the fact people can critise other countries but when critism of Israel aqcuire all hell brakes loose.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by rex3
America is the biggest aid to Israel and is continuing to help Israel create there country whilst the Palestinians are subjected to a life of misery,

it recieves $3 a year from America more than any African country, there are millions of official and unofficials sources to this: http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats...of_israel.html

Another subjective statement.
It's the difference between al-Aqsa Intifada being a liberation fight or a terrorist fight.

Edit: Also, Rex, had you criticised another country based on subjective opinions you'd get the same response. It's not just because it's Israel that people have opinions on it.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Lauren

Another subjective statement.
It's the difference between al-Aqsa Intifada being a liberation fight or a terrorist fight

well that depends on what country your in and what media your reading. in my belief is that there country has been invaded for no reason... not for WMDs not for suspected terrorism before hand, Nothing.

You may want to think of it as your as biased as i am, yet the audience can filter for them selves what the truth is

[Lauren]

I'm not biased in the same way. I actually don't have a view on the Palestinian/Israel debate, I'm just playing devils advocate and presenting another side of the coin in this debate.

[rex3]

Originally posted by Lauren
I'm not biased in the same way. I actually don't have a view on the Palestinian/Israel debate, I'm just playing devils advocate and presenting another side of the coin in this debate.

funny...

thats exactly what im doing...

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by rex3
What so you cant have Zionist-Jews in America?

OK i will go with what ever you gotta say, whethere or not Jews are mostly in America, so what.

Because you based your entire anti Isreali tirade on your completely untrue claim that the majority of the worlds jews live in isreal and are zionists.

[rex3]

Originally posted by spacebandit

Because you based your entire anti Isreali tirade on your completely untrue claim that the majority of the worlds jews live in isreal and are zionists.

iv had the same debate with lauren and im not having it again

edit: O bleeding K, the majority are not in Israel what ever, the majority are in america, would prove more of a point to the bias America has towards Israel

[Shaun]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Rex, well done for raising awareness about these issues. I've noticed the subject has been at the top of the post chart over the past couple of days, and people obviously don't like to accept these things are happening...e.g.

....but well done all the same.

Honestly, I'm not an expert on the Middle East but I do know that Israel has been just as problematic as the other nations have been.

HOWEVER, what my post was getting at is that there's been loads of topics about Jews in general, and I'm finding them really boring - I just wish he'd talk about something else.

[Wiglet]

I've followed this thread from star to end (so far) and while the subject matter is important there have been many sweeping statements made, some nothing to do with what we are talking about?

Also I must add I love the thought of Lauren being Spitfire

I wish this would stay on topic and now we're on to Iraq and WMD which has nothing to do with Jews/Palestine.

[rex3]

Originally posted by wiglet
I wish this would stay on topic and now we're on to Iraq and WMD which has nothing to do with Jews/Palestine.

I dont know about you, but people thought that Saddams WMD's were gonna be used against Israel for there actions against Palestine. Could be ....

[Dr43%er]

"All Jewish businesmen are going to boycott the UK?" From what I see Lauren did add the all, but also added the question mark. Thus she was asking you a question not misquoting you.

[Lauren]

I didn't misquote you, I was asking you to clarify whether thats what you meant... hence the use of "?"....Simply because by you saying "because of the Jewish Business men were going to boycott the UK" sounded as if you were suggesting all Jewish Businessmen had this priority.