[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You mean apart from his professional boxing career and politics and charity work.

What has the likes of Gemma Collins ever done?

Yes because we all obviously knew him from his boxing and his charity work and not from him describing Gay adoption as child abuse.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yes because we all obviously knew him from his boxing and his charity work and not from him describing Gay adoption as child abuse.

I certainly knew him from Boxing before he went into the house.

He is one of the few genuine celebrities in there.

I knew nothing of his adoption views until it came up in that task.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I certainly knew him from Boxing before he went into the house.

He is one of the few genuine celebrities in there.

I knew nothing of his adoption views until it came up in that task.

Hmm, I don't really buy that.

It was his homophobia that got him attention, nobody gives a **** about anything else he's done or he'd be known for it instead.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Hmm, I don't really buy that.

It was his homophobia that got him attention, nobody gives a **** about anything else he's done or he'd be known for it instead.

I don't care what you buy. He is well known in the boxing world and I closely follow boxing.

Unlike all these hysterical reactionaries, I don't tend to give a toss what people's opinions are. Why would I? It doesn't affect me.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I don't care what you buy. He is well known in the boxing world and I closely follow boxing.

Unlike all these hysterical reactionaries, I don't tend to give a toss what people's opinions are. Why would I? It doesn't affect me.

You aren't representative of the general public, you may claim to know who he was prior to the homophobia but most of the GP wouldn't know him from Adam otherwise.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You aren't representative of the general public, you may claim to know who he was prior to the homophobia but most of the GP wouldn't know him from Adam otherwise.

Eh?

He was a champion boxer. And has been in several political parties. Why would you assume that people only know him from his opinions on gays?


This gets more bizarre.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Eh?

He was a champion boxer. And has been in several political parties. Why would you assume that people only know him from his opinions on gays?


This gets more bizarre.

Because most people don't follow boxing outside of major fights and the general public don't really keep track of a minor MP's movements through the parties. The reason why he was notable prior to CBB were his comments on gay couples and adoption. Accept it or not, it's the truth.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Hmm, I don't really buy that.

It was his homophobia that got him attention, nobody gives a **** about anything else he's done or he'd be known for it instead.

hmmm, just a wild guess but the homless probably care. a community far more persecuted than the gays.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

hmmm, just a wild guess but the homless probably care. a community far more persecuted than the gays.

So true,homeless have lot worse life than gays !!

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So true,homeless have lot worse life than gays !!

It's not a competition. I bet you don't even know the things that happen to gay people because of who they are...I don't know how you can compare the two really.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It's not a competition. I bet you don't even know the things that happen to gay people because of who they are...I don't know how you can compare the two really.

My opinion and its as valid as yours

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It's not a competition. I bet you don't even know the things that happen to gay people because of who they are...I don't know how you can compare the two really.

things happen to people from all walks of life, take me, i once got my head kicked in for being myself.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yes because we all obviously knew him from his boxing and his charity work and not from him describing Gay adoption as child abuse.

I didn't know him full stop ....but BB "CHOSE"to highlight his beliefs ,they didn't mention anyone else's beliefs did they ?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I didn't know him full stop ....but BB "CHOSE"to highlight his beliefs ,they didn't mention anyone else's beliefs did they ?

Because that's the only reason why he's notable, dear.

Really, it's like no one thinks that Winston is accountable for his own words or actions.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Because that's the only reason why he's notable, dear.

Really, it's like no one thinks that Winston is accountable for his own words or actions.

Dont patronize me .......... HE didn't say the words on the show BB did .....God is it that hard to sink in ?

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Dont patronize me .......... HE didn't say the words on the show BB did .....God is it that hard to sink in ?

He displayed his homophobia on his VT so he wanted it known as part of who he was going into the house. Although he now denies saying it even though it's on tape. He's a trainwreck.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

hmmm, just a wild guess but the homless probably care. a community far more persecuted than the gays.

Why are you trying to turn this into a 'who's got it worse' competition? I can only assume you're desperate and you want to take the discussion away from homophobia since you know you can't win otherwise.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Arguably, Katie Hopkins was much more offensive to a broader cross section of society and yet she was celebrated by Emma and the producers.

Two wrongs clearly don't make a right, but there is a distinct lack of consistency.

I think Winston is a prize ass, and I would never defend his views, but if KH could get away with saying what she did, how on earth is the same privilege not provided to Winston.

Well, KH isn't exactly the nation's sweetheart is she? I can't remember much of her time in the house since I found that series a bore but I think she was smart enough to at least play the game and leave her views out of it when she could.

BB brought up Winston's comments and he could have easily diffused the situation but then he just made it worse for himself.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Dont patronize me .......... HE didn't say the words on the show BB did .....God is it that hard to sink in ?

BB brought it up but he tried to justify his hate by using religion, saying that he didn't agree with it because 'the children don't get a choice' and then on top of it all he acts like a victim whilst using phrases such as 'Deaf and Dumb'.

He's a grown man, he should take responsibility for his actions, it was his comments in the VT and then after the task that sealed his fate. He could have recovered if he handled the task better.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Why are you trying to turn this into a 'who's got it worse' competition? I can only assume you're desperate and you want to take the discussion away from homophobia since you know you can't win otherwise.



Well, KH isn't exactly the nation's sweetheart is she? I can't remember much of her time in the house since I found that series a bore but I think she was smart enough to at least play the game and leave her views out of it when she could.

BB brought up Winston's comments and he could have easily diffused the situation but then he just made it worse for himself.



BB brought it up but he tried to justify his hate by using religion, saying that he didn't agree with it because 'the children don't get a choice' and then on top of it all he acts like a victim whilst using phrases such as 'Deaf and Dumb'.

He's a grown man, he should take responsibility for his actions, it was his comments in the VT and then after the task that sealed his fate. He could have recovered if he handled the task better.

threads about respectinng opinions or not dear, not homophobia. you're hatred is effecting your mind, doll.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

threads about respectinng opinions or not dear, not homophobia. you're hatred is effecting your mind, doll.

I'm not the one desperate to defend a homophobe but k I'm obviously the hateful one here...

This topic has been about homophobia since the beginning, to think otherwise to to live in denial. To try to downplay the homophobia by bringing in homelessness reeks of desperation.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Why are you trying to turn this into a 'who's got it worse' competition? I can only assume you're desperate and you want to take the discussion away from homophobia since you know you can't win otherwise.



Well, KH isn't exactly the nation's sweetheart is she? I can't remember much of her time in the house since I found that series a bore but I think she was smart enough to at least play the game and leave her views out of it when she could.

BB brought up Winston's comments and he could have easily diffused the situation but then he just made it worse for himself.



BB brought it up but he tried to justify his hate by using religion, saying that he didn't agree with it because 'the children don't get a choice' and then on top of it all he acts like a victim whilst using phrases such as 'Deaf and Dumb'.

He's a grown man, he should take responsibility for his actions, it was his comments in the VT and then after the task that sealed his fate. He could have recovered if he handled the task better.

How odd that you see this as winning and losing. It tells us everything we need to know really.

[jet]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

How odd that you see this as winning and losing. It tells us everything we need to know really.

And what is that?
On another note, what do you think of Winston's memory loss?