[cassieparis]

Oh here we go!!
Black people are victimized in the BB house because they're different and what happens?
They get accused of playing cards.

Or those that wished to defend them from the racists are card players too!!!
In order to play the race card you have to be in a "game" of race with other players, no?

You'd think Britain was a society free of racism where everybody lived happily welcoming refugees. Please!!

There are some deep seated serial deniers here. Nothing is ever racist in their universe.
I see you!!!!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

actually it is. everyone knows that bagels are super jewey.

Super jewey LOL... I like that. I'm nicking it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lime

See this is the problem with Corkonians who beleive that cork is the capital of the republic

We've just gone independent now instead, we're our own little country

[Livia]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Oh here we go!!
Black people are victimized in the BB house because they're different and what happens?
They get accused of playing cards.

Or those that wished to defend them from the racists are card players too!!!
In order to play the race card you have to be in a "game" of race with other players, no?

You'd think Britain was a society free of racism where everybody lived happily welcoming refugees. Please!!

There are some deep seated serial deniers here. Nothing is ever racist in their universe.
I see you!!!!

On the other hand, there are the people who perceive racism everywhere even where none exists.

I see you too! But only till I get to the ignore button.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

being a bit dodgy doesn't warrant being accused of racism though, especially these days where being accused of racism is basically worse than being called a pedophile. it's like saying... oh that guy holding a kid looks a bit dodgy, he might be her father, but even so, let's just accuse him of being a pedophile just in case!

I didn't say it did lol I was just saying that it was a bit dodgy (or would have been if they hadn't actually been eating chicken)

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by lime

they were making chicken for dinner...how is that dodgy.

Were they? I saw no references to that

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

It isn't innocuous. It is a well known stereotype.

Putting any racism aside for a moment.....do you really believe that John has behaved better than Winston?

Winston simply gave his opinion when forced into it by BB. He was completely respectful. John has proved himself to be a vile and crual person who seems to take delight in ostracising people.

It's actually not a well known stereotype in the UK. I'd never heard of it before and I use the internet! Also it sounds a rather stupid stereotype. I eat a lot of chicken, its healthier than red meat. What's up with chicken?

Maybe I'm naive but I think shouting racism for every little thing is more of an issue than a comment about chicken dinners. Its like looking for a problem that isnt there yet. Just treating people the same whatever their colour is the way it ought to be.

[lime]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Were they? I saw no references to that

I thougt I heard The girl from SCD ask about how she would make the chicken

[bots]

Originally Posted by lime

Anyone that sees eating chicken is a racial slur does not understand racism.As a South African ...trust me ...that does not even come on the radar when it comes to racial slurs

In the USA its used extensively as a slur. I'm not defending it, i'm just saying its there, and combined with John's demeaning intent at the time, it is not beyond the bounds of possibility.

I would take it a stage further actually, and say it doesn't matter a **** what words were being used, John's intention was to put down Tiff and target it her for animosity. Its then up to everyone to decide if he was being reasonable or not.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It's actually not a well known stereotype in the UK. I'd never heard of it before and I use the internet! Also it sounds a rather stupid stereotype. I eat a lot of chicken, its healthier than red meat. What's up with chicken?

Maybe I'm naive but I think shouting racism for every little thing is more of an issue than just treating people the same whatever their colour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereo...#Fried_chicken

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by lime

I thougt I heard The girl from SCD ask about how she would make the chicken

Think I'll watch the repeat.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereo...#Fried_chicken

I still think it's a ridiculous stereotype. And we aren't American so that stereotype probably wouldn't occur to anyone in the house.

[lime]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

In the USA its used extensively as a slur. I'm not defending it, i'm just saying its there, and combined with John's demeaning intent at the time, it is not beyond the bounds of possibility.

I would take it a stage further actually, and say it doesn't matter a **** what words were being used, John's intention was to put down Tiff and target it her for animosity. Its then up to everyone to decide if he was being reasonable or not.

Don't get me wrong...I think John is a knob.But as a Boer I don't find it offensive when folk talk about the food we eat and I don't know any black or coloured person in SA that would find it racist to talk about what each group of etnicity ate

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It's actually not a well known stereotype in the UK. I'd never heard of it before and I use the internet! Also it sounds a rather stupid stereotype. I eat a lot of chicken, its healthier than red meat. What's up with chicken?

Maybe I'm naive but I think shouting racism for every little thing is more of an issue than a comment about chicken dinners. Its like looking for a problem that isnt there yet. Just treating people the same whatever their colour is the way it ought to be.

i think it's specifically fried chicken...because it's originally from the south, and a lot of southern cuisine was invented by the black cooks working for whites...plus because slaves were given the scraps of meat, they tended to deep fry them to make it taste better because they were given the worst foods, so they did whatever they could to add flavor. they fried everything in the left over fat to add flavor. that's basically where all soul food comes from.

but yea, fried chicken is definitely associated with black people.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i think it's specifically fried chicken...because it's originally from the south, and a lot of southern cuisine was invented by the black cooks working for whites...plus because slaves were given the scraps of meat, they tended to deep fry them to make it taste better because they were given the worst foods, so they did whatever they could to add flavor. they fried everything in the left over fat to add flavor. that's basically where all soul food comes from.

but yea, fried chicken is definitely associated with black people.

Yep, I certainly knew about the stereotype and knew what john was getting at immediately.

There is also a well known watermelon stereotype too.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Super jewey LOL... I like that. I'm nicking it.

A bagel with cream cheese and lox. I'm in super jewey heaven.

only the jews can make fish for breakfast taste nice!

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by Livia

On the other hand, there are the people who perceive racism everywhere even where none exists.

I see you too! But only till I get to the ignore button.

Yeah and you know what else you can do don't you?
Tastes nice

But you aren't talking to me

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Oh here we go!!
Black people are victimized in the BB house because they're different and what happens?
They get accused of playing cards.

Do you not see anything wrong with the way Tiffany reacted last night? If you had lost someone significant in your life, would you appreciate someone ranting and raving at you? Her race has nothing to do with the group rounding on her, it was her extremely distasteful and inappropriate reaction to someone that was grieving.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Yeah and you know what else you can do don't you?
Tastes nice

But you aren't talking to me

wow, so mature and on topic, next you are gone tell her to ucksay your ickday because of course if you say it in a childish code it's super clever. homosaywhat?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Do you not see anything wrong with the way Tiffany reacted last night? If you had lost someone significant in your life, would you appreciate someone ranting and raving at you? Her race has nothing to do with the group rounding on her, it was her extremely distasteful and inappropriate reaction to someone that was grieving.

yep and her inability to see beyond her own nose that someone had lost a husband and the world a great star


you could not make it up

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by lostalex

wow, so mature and on topic, next you are gone tell her to ucksay your ickday because of course if you say it in a childish code it's super clever. homosaywhat?

Already told and in plain English.
So appreciate the compliments.

[fitz2k2]

you would think someone in audience of bots would say racism ,but I guess the audience ain't smart enough

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by lime

I thougt I heard The girl from SCD ask about how she would make the chicken

The only food I saw during the episode was sandwiches, before the 2nd advert.

No one mentioned chicken, unless I missed it again.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereo...#Fried_chicken

Jaxie said it's not a well-known stereotype in the UK. So you post a Wiki page supporting his statement. Bit odd.

[chuff me dizzy]

Every bloody series is the racist/homophobia card dragged out ,this is not racism ,its just a bitch who lied,nothing more sinister than that