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Old 21-01-2016, 11:17 AM #51
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It's complete foolishness that this situation wasn't clarified before they called the called the police. It's shocking that the school hasn't even apologised to the family for their lowkey racism.
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It's complete foolishness that this situation wasn't clarified before they called the called the police. It's shocking that the school hasn't even apologised to the family for their lowkey racism.

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they always tell children to confide in their teachers and counselors... but when he does he's pressured by family into saying he lied. this happens all the time to children that speak up.
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they always tell children to confide in their teachers and counselors... but when he does he's pressured by family into saying he lied. this happens all the time to children that speak up.

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It looked bad,

No one got beat up
Teachers followed new data
Police did their job.
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This was T.
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It looked bad,

No one got beat up
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Police did their job.
according to the authorities it was not a mistake, the child was reaching out for help. now he's being bullied into silence... echoes of jimmy saville.
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Mods, someone note down this man's IP address and inform the authorities.

Why would he capitalise this word specifically, if not to covertly hint to us of his involvement with extremists? I for one can't think of any reason, and in this day and age you can't be too safe.
LOL - Just seen this you nutter.
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Teachers are not part of the secret service.
Just as a doctor joins medicine to heal the sick, a teacher joins education to educate. Whilst I believe its crucial for a teacher or a doctor to pass on information that has aroused their suspicions on abuse issues and crime, to have a school teacher afraid of open discussion on certain subjects and to expect that teacher to spy on her pupils is a sad state of affairs.

The teacher who reported this, did so because she feared the repercussions of not sticking to the rule book. She could of even faced prosecution and so like it or not, she probably felt she had no choice.

Anyway, the story has been taken down for investigation, so I'm not sure what's going on.
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Maybe it's all more anti Muslim hogwash?...
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Maybe it's all more anti Muslim hogwash?...
I only read it in the Guardian Kizzy. Was it in other papers too?
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..the thing is though, that not the same action is taken when it comes to other things and when a child or family is really desperately in need of outside/social care help...there is no help at all or very little when there really is a huge cause for concern with a child and concern that does have many aspects of it, not just an incorrectly spelled word or one incident which would be an easy mistake for a 10yr old to make..as TS, I think it was who said, it's something that would not probably present itself like that anyway..I 'live in a terrorist house', 'I am a terrorist' etc...we're just a very small school in comparison to many town or city schools who must have many, many more families and children who really do need care and are screaming for help... but we have children with behaviour/violence issues, consistent and persistent ones and children trying to hurt people, really, really seriously hurt them but we're told almost daily that there is no help for that child/that family available and the thing to do is to actually wait until they do hurt someone, until that awful thing does happen...because it 'all seems to be under control'....and young people/young teenagers trying to harm themselves but no help there either because 'it's a phase that teenagers go through'....a great focus it seems on possible radicalisation and of course if it's a Muslim child/family it has to be investigated and with no time to waste because we can't be too careful can we...but nothing...nothing..?...in any other area, or very, very little at all...
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Teachers are not part of the secret service.
Just as a doctor joins medicine to heal the sick, a teacher joins education to educate. Whilst I believe its crucial for a teacher or a doctor to pass on information that has aroused their suspicions on abuse issues and crime, to have a school teacher afraid of open discussion on certain subjects and to expect that teacher to spy on her pupils is a sad state of affairs.

The teacher who reported this, did so because she feared the repercussions of not sticking to the rule book. She could of even faced prosecution and so like it or not, she probably felt she had no choice.

Anyway, the story has been taken down for investigation, so I'm not sure what's going on.

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according to the authorities it was not a mistake, the child was reaching out for help. now he's being bullied into silence... echoes of jimmy saville.

Do You have a UK link for that?
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Do You have a UK link for that?
it read it on daily mail or guardian forget which, but those are the only 2 uk news sites i read so must have been one of them.
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it read it on daily mail or guardian forget which, but those are the only 2 uk news sites i read so must have been one of them.
I suggest dropping the mail for the Independent Alex.
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..the thing is though, that not the same action is taken when it comes to other things and when a child or family is really desperately in need of outside/social care help...there is no help at all or very little when there really is a huge cause for concern with a child and concern that does have many aspects of it, not just an incorrectly spelled word or one incident which would be an easy mistake for a 10yr old to make..as TS, I think it was who said, it's something that would not probably present itself like that anyway..I 'live in a terrorist house', 'I am a terrorist' etc...we're just a very small school in comparison to many town or city schools who must have many, many more families and children who really do need care and are screaming for help... but we have children with behaviour/violence issues, consistent and persistent ones and children trying to hurt people, really, really seriously hurt them but we're told almost daily that there is no help for that child/that family available and the thing to do is to actually wait until they do hurt someone, until that awful thing does happen...because it 'all seems to be under control'....and young people/young teenagers trying to harm themselves but no help there either because 'it's a phase that teenagers go through'....a great focus it seems on possible radicalisation and of course if it's a Muslim child/family it has to be investigated and with no time to waste because we can't be too careful can we...but nothing...nothing..?...in any other area, or very, very little at all...
This is so depressing.
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