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Yeah, I agree with this.

I think a lot of people subscribe to the theory of each James Bond not being the same person but a spy assigned that code name or whatever.
I like it as a theory but there are a few small links in the "classic" pre-Brosnan films that fairly explicitly state that they're the same guy. Mentions of old missions / enemies / gadgets, things like that. Not so much with Brosnan but I'm sure the dead wife gets mentioned at some point? I dunno. I found all of the Brosnan films except Goldeneye pretty boring . And Goldeneye is really only an exception because, of course, Sean Bean is a legend unmatched in cinema.
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I like it as a theory but there are a few small links in the "classic" pre-Brosnan films that fairly explicitly state that they're the same guy. Mentions of old missions / enemies / gadgets, things like that. Not so much with Brosnan but I'm sure the dead wife gets mentioned at some point? I dunno. I found all of the Brosnan films except Goldeneye pretty boring . And Goldeneye is really only an exception because, of course, Sean Bean is a legend unmatched in cinema.
I just don't like Brosnan. He's dull yet cheesy at the same time.
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I just don't like Brosnan. He's dull yet cheesy at the same time.


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...interestingly, I started this conversation in the staffroom yesterday, being interested in thoughts there and there was many whose thought process agreed with Liv and TS, in the 'changing of back stories'...I guess that it was a 50/50-ish thing...


...I think that him being ageless, is something he has to be because if he wasn't, then he would just die or would have died really and more than anything else, James Bond is a huge money making thing, so he can never die/he can never age...but I don't personally really get that association because in film terms, him being 'born' in the 60's/transferred to the screen then...?...then that would only reinforce what Liv and TS are saying in that 'back in the day'/in the 60's/70's etc, would a black James Bond have access to the places and situations that he did..?...not really because as is often discussed on the forum, thems was different times..anyways, yes he is a 'neutral' character and could be believable as one..(my opinion anyway..)..now situations could be but they couldn't have been originally, with very much a racist/homophobic/sexist etc world ....

..anyways, James Bond is in terms of a character 'an institution'/type thing so he will never age in the way that other franchise characters are aging, characters like Rocky and John McClane, when they're now becoming 'the mentor' type role because the money James Bond is making isn't waning through the decades so he has to stay forever young...it just wouldn't make sense otherwise, so is actually nothing but logic/continuing to carry him on through many more decades etc...


..anyways, I also find it interesting with the best actor ting because I've never thought that James Bond has ever been about acting...there are some fine actors who have played him..Sean Connery, Pierce Brosnan, Daniel Craig but I wouldn't have said that their acting abilities were particularly something that were relevant in them portraying Bond, it's more what having been chosen for the part gave them...the other acting roles offered..?...and that's also what black actors are saying, would they have the same opportunities following on from being James Bond, would their acting worlds open up and expand in the same way or still remain restricted..?...see, that's something we'll never know unless that's something that's explored in the first place, by their being a black James Bond, how careers would progress from that as well..?...(I do agree with Livia actually, I like the sound of Colin Salmon in the role..)...yes, Idris is amazing as an actor and very easy on the eye but James Bond has never been about acting abilities, as I say...Sean Connery was often pretty dire and Roger Moore, well the less he had a speaking part, the better....
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I like it as a theory but there are a few small links in the "classic" pre-Brosnan films that fairly explicitly state that they're the same guy. Mentions of old missions / enemies / gadgets, things like that. Not so much with Brosnan but I'm sure the dead wife gets mentioned at some point? I dunno. I found all of the Brosnan films except Goldeneye pretty boring . And Goldeneye is really only an exception because, of course, Sean Bean is a legend unmatched in cinema.
Yeah I agree. I kind of lost interest in the films though when they ran out of original books to film. Bond IS just a franchise now, it wasn't back in t'day.

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