[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It has nothing to do with snobbery, its setting an example that you dress appropriately for the occasion.

Indeed, you arrive prepared. Pyjamas are for your bedroom. Get up, wash and put your clothes on you skanky lazy chavs

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It has nothing to do with snobbery, its setting an example that you dress appropriately for the occasion.

It has everything to do with it. For the occasion? What occasion? Driving or walking your children to a street which has a building on it in which they go in to learn? Whoopdee-****ing-doo. They aren't attending the Oscars, this isn't The Ritz, it's a bloody school.

People should be able to wear whatever they want, wherever they want...and it's the place of no one else to tell them otherwise. I would also apply this to school uniforms if it weren't for the prevention of bullying that it provides.

'Setting an example' should be explaining to children the importance of and enjoyment that can be sought from learning and being educated, and encouraging them to get the most out of their experience, not 'you should wear this here', 'you shouldn't wear that there' like these man made ~rules~ about what material things that sit on your body should be at all important and have any impact on your contribution to the world

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes I think they call that
a Milf!


But Ammi
it was just Debated Live on SkyNewsHD
2 women , no less.

..oh, two women no less.....

..the school want their children to be there on time in the morning, they want them to have had a nourishing breakfast, ready for their learning, they want them in their full school uniforms and not forgetting anything..lunches/PE kits/homework due etc...they want, they want, they want, they want..well it's good to teach children that in adult life, sometimes/some mornings, some things have to give and people don't always get what they want because it's a struggle to get it all done....I looked at their website this morning, I couldn't find a picture with a child in it, doing lessons/activities/special occasions with parents present/family events etc...nothing but empty classrooms..it doesn't seem to me to be a school about children and families ..if they want the 'right impression' for their school, if that's so important to them...then I think that maybe they should look at stepping up their game first and look at the impression that they're giving out ...

[arista]

Report just on Ch5HD News Live
one lady said she will obey the Letter.

Well Done Madame.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It has everything to do with it. For the occasion? What occasion? Driving or walking your children to a street which has a building on it in which they go in to learn? Whoopdee-****ing-doo. They aren't attending the Oscars, this isn't The Ritz, it's a bloody school.

People should be able to wear whatever they want, wherever they want...and it's the place of no one else to tell them otherwise. I would also apply this to school uniforms if it weren't for the prevention of bullying that it provides.

'Setting an example' should be explaining to children the importance of and enjoyment that can be sought from learning and being educated, and encouraging them to get the most out of their experience, not 'you should wear this here', 'you shouldn't wear that there' like these man made ~rules~ about what material things that sit on your body should be at all important and have any impact on your contribution to the world

So you would be happy for the teachers to rock up in slippers and pjs?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So you would be happy for the teachers to rock up in slippers and pjs?

Yes. It's an educational establishment, not a fashion parade

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yes. It's an educational establishment, not a fashion parade

Well I hope you practice what you preach next time have an important interview, let us know how it goes

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yes. It's an educational establishment, not a fashion parade

Correct Jack
but it is a School Run
come on.



I worry about you
You need a International Job
Ideal for you to Carry Legal Diamonds
no one would suspect you etc.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Well I hope you practice what you preach next time have an important interview, let us know how it goes

LOL this is always the go-to response people have when presented with such ~radical~ ideas

I'm perfectly aware of the way the world works, and that I, and everyone else, have no choice than to trudge along with these ridiculous conventions if we want to get on in life...but that doesn't make them any less stupid than they are, and it doesn't mean they can't be called out for being so stupid.

Should people have to 'dress appropriately' (whatever that even means) for an interview? No, you are applying for a job not a spot on Next Top Model, your qualifications, experience, knowledge and passion should be the only thing that matters, people are perfectly capable of working to their full potential wearing whatever they want, it's just as a society we've established these irrelevant ~rules~ about the way people need to look and act in order to succeed and all of it is bull****, but people continue to lap it up cause it's the only thing they know to be true. Unfortunately, until people step back and realise just how silly it all is, it will continue. So do people have to 'dress appropriately' for an interview? Yes, sadly they do.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

LOL this is always the go-to response people have when presented with such ~radical~ ideas

I'm perfectly aware of the way the world works, and that I, and everyone else, have no choice than to trudge along with these ridiculous conventions if we want to get on in life...but that doesn't make them any less stupid than they are, and it doesn't mean they can't be called out for being so stupid.

Should people have to 'dress appropriately' (whatever that even means) for an interview? No, you are applying for a job not a spot on Next Top Model, your qualifications, experience, knowledge and passion should be the only thing that matters, people are perfectly capable of working to their full potential wearing whatever they want, it's just as a society we've established these irrelevant ~rules~ about the way people need to look and act in order to succeed and all of it is bull****, but people continue to lap it up cause it's the only thing they know to be true. Unfortunately, until people step back and realise just how silly it all is, it will continue. So do people have to 'dress appropriately' for an interview? Yes, sadly they do.

Sorry to break it to you but conform to the social norms or wallow in your Pjs

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Sorry to break it to you but conform to the social norms or wallow in your Pjs

Oh dear, looks like someone didn't read my post or else you'd see I alluded to pretty much that in my second paragraph

Don't worry, I expected it to go over your head anyway...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Oh dear, looks like someone didn't read my post or else you'd see I alluded to pretty much that in my second paragraph

Don't worry, I expected it to go over your head anyway...

You are right I didn't read all your post as with you its why use one word when I can use 20, this is where speed reading comes in handy

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Oh dear, looks like someone didn't read my post or else you'd see I alluded to pretty much that in my second paragraph

Don't worry, I expected it to go over your head anyway...

that is rude to a lady Jack, you take that impudence back

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that is rude to a lady Jack, you take that impudence back

No worries LT he thinks I am an air head, he has a lot to learn

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are right I didn't read all your post as with you its why use one word when I can use 20, this is where speed reading comes in handy

Because sometimes complex ideas (that aren't even complex in this case, maybe for you though) need explaining properly so that people can try to get their heads around them and work out how to respond sufficiently, that's usually how debates work

For someone who is a prolific 'the forum is being ruined by clocked, teas and gifs' complainer you aren't half seeming a little contradictory when presented with something a bit more substantial and despite what I said in my last post, I didn't actually expect you'd give up so easily. When the level of response is of a dismissive 'well you see how that goes for you' nature, you know you've proven the other person wrong and they've been left with nothing else to say

oop did I just clock you? (is that better?)

[GiRTh]

Cant see why the parents dont throw on a tracksuit bottom and tee shirt or something. No one is asking them to be smart just please dont leave the house in bedroom clothing.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Because sometimes complex ideas (that aren't even complex in this case, maybe for you though) need explaining properly so that people can try to get their heads around them and work out how to respond sufficiently, that's usually how debates work

For someone who is a prolific 'the forum is being ruined by clocked, teas and gifs' complainer you aren't half seeming a little contradictory when presented with something a bit more substantial and despite what I said in my last post, I didn't actually expect you'd give up so easily. When the level of response is of a dismissive 'well you see how that goes for you' nature, you know you've proven the other person wrong and they've been left with nothing else to say

oop did I just clock you? (is that better?)

You seem to know a lot about my posting history, can't recall complaining about clocked etc and if I did it's a long time ago, maybe you can find the posts and refresh my memory, btw I didn't give up, I've said what I wanted to say and am not going to get involved in tit for tat with you, so now I'm in "can't be arsed mode" as you are drifting into spoiling for a fight and personal insult mode it's just not worth my time..

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You seem to know a lot about my posting history, can't recall complaining about clocked etc and if I did it's a long time ago, maybe you can find the posts and refresh my memory, btw I didn't give up, I've said what I wanted to say and am not going to get involved in tit for tat with you, so now I'm in "can't be arsed mode" as you are drifting into spoiling for a fight and personal insult mode it's just not worth my time..

You are the one that started the tit for tat when you used a patronising smiley and said 'wallow in your Pjs' and then insulted the way I post

If you cba to debate properly and sufficiently respond to posts then in future don't bother quoting me, or better still don't involve yourself in the thread? I was open to a civilised discussion but if you're going to give it out then you should expect to take it back

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

You are the one that started the tit for tat when you used a patronising smiley and said 'wallow in your Pjs' and then insulted the way I post

If you cba to debate properly and sufficiently respond to posts then in future don't bother quoting me, or better still don't involve yourself in the thread? I was open to a civilised discussion but if you're going to give it out then you should expect to take it back

Don't involve myself in the thread, don't quote you? ....I can take it back fine except when posters start with the personal insults, then it really isn't worth it

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Don't involve myself in the thread, don't quote you? ....I can take it back fine except when posters start with the personal insults, then it really isn't worth it

...yes? If you're going to involve yourself in a debate, question someone's position and then dismiss their response with a patronising throwaway comment (and then go on to insult the way they post) then what's the point in joining in? It's just unnecessary and rude

And believe me I haven't once insulted you in this thread. Again, you started the digs...if you want to turn what should've been a civilised discussion into tit for tat then that's your problem, but expect it back.

[Rob!]

I watched an interview with this woman on This Morning and she said that the main reason she wrote the letter was because of the fact that some parents were coming to things like parents evenings and Christmas shows in their PJs too. That I can understand why she'd have an issue.
But the dropping off and picking up of the kids at school where the parents are literally there for about 5 minutes or less has absolutely nothing to do with her and to say that she wants other parents to set an example to other people's children when it's concerning the wearing of pyjamas is an absolute load of ****. She has no right to tell ANYONE's parents how to dress for that.

[Alf]

Cherie owning Jack in this thread.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I watched an interview with this woman on This Morning and she said that the main reason she wrote the letter was because of the fact that some parents were coming to things like parents evenings and Christmas shows in their PJs too. That I can understand why she'd have an issue.
But the dropping off and picking up of the kids at school where the parents are literally there for about 5 minutes or less has absolutely nothing to do with her and to say that she wants other parents to set an example to other people's children when it's concerning the wearing of pyjamas is an absolute load of ****. She has no right to tell ANYONE's parents how to dress for that.

She has every right to say what she likes.

[arista]

Originally Posted by wannashag

She has every right to say what she likes.

Correct she is the School Head
her letter means so much
to many of us.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by wannashag

She has every right to say what she likes.

Well that's me told.