[Ammi]

....hmmmm, some of those comments really are pretty darn racist tbh...'Why has my post been removed? All I did was echo what other people are saying'...I'm guessing that the reason for the removals is for that very reason and if these are the ones which have been allowed/not removed then others must have been extremely grim indeed...I do understand that people are fearful/these are scary times and I think that's a huge factor for many people but it still doesn't make it any less racist/the vein of many of those comments...


..anyways, I know that I'm on my high horse about this atm, which I have personal reasons for but I do think that this total focus on radicalisation in so many areas of society atm is so not helping at all and almost inciting racism/suspicion etc...and I do know that it's important also, you know so should be a focus but it seems to me to be detracting from so many other 'families in need' which are just taking a secondary place...these families are everywhere and every day, there isn't a community that doesn't have them on their very doorstep but I think a 'radicalised family' or person within a family is something that would be a comparatively rare thing/and perspective with that, I think...IS may be growing but IS is not everywhere...

[Ammi]

..what I mean is, that it's a time to be vigilant but there is never a time to not be vigilant of so many things within families and environments/communities...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....hmmmm, some of those comments really are pretty darn racist tbh...'Why has my post been removed? All I did was echo what other people are saying'...I'm guessing that the reason for the removals is for that very reason and if these are the ones which have been allowed/not removed then others must have been extremely grim indeed...I do understand that people are fearful/these are scary times and I think that's a huge factor for many people but it still doesn't make it any less racist/the vein of many of those comments...


..anyways, I know that I'm on my high horse about this atm, which I have personal reasons for but I do think that this total focus on radicalisation in so many areas of society atm is so not helping at all and almost inciting racism/suspicion etc...and I do know that it's important also, you know so should be a focus but it seems to me to be detracting from so many other 'families in need' which are just taking a secondary place...these families are everywhere and every day, there isn't a community that doesn't have them on their very doorstep but I think a 'radicalised family' or person within a family is something that would be a comparatively rare thing/and perspective with that, I think...IS may be growing but IS is not everywhere...

I think what I meant is 'Racist' in intent Ammi - a lot of these people cannot adequately vocalise their thoughts and their comments are racist within the strict definition of the word.

I am perceived as racist by some on here, but I KNOW I am not, my family KNOW I am not, and my friends KNOW I am not, and those friends include a 28 year long friend of mine, Haleem and his beautiful wife and family - all Muslims - who I will be having dinner with this evening at his lovely home in Huddersfield. We may even visit the Hanfia Masjid mosque on Bentley Street, which I have done work on, to see another friend.

Might surprise some people.

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I think what I meant is 'Racist' in intent Ammi - a lot of these people cannot adequately vocalise their thoughts and their comments are racist within the strict definition of the word.

I am perceived as racist by some on here, but I KNOW I am not, my family KNOW I am not, and my friends KNOW I am not, and those friends include a 28 year long friend of mine, Haleem and his beautiful wife and family - all Muslims - who I will be having dinner with this evening at his lovely home in Huddersfield. We may even visit the Hanfia Masjid mosque on Bentley Street, which I have done work on, to see another friend.

Might surprise some people.

They Are Wrong You Are Not Kirk
its the way you write - I guess

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

They Are Wrong You Are Not Kirk
its the way you write - I guess

Thank you Arista - I am glad we are friends.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I think what I meant is 'Racist' in intent Ammi - a lot of these people cannot adequately vocalise their thoughts and their comments are racist within the strict definition of the word.

I am perceived as racist by some on here, but I KNOW I am not, my family KNOW I am not, and my friends KNOW I am not, and those friends include a 28 year long friend of mine, Haleem and his beautiful wife and family - all Muslims - who I will be having dinner with this evening at his lovely home in Huddersfield. We may even visit the Hanfia Masjid mosque on Bentley Street, which I have done work on, to see another friend.

Might surprise some people.

..I don't see racist, Kirk when these topics are discussed..(I don't think that you're 'right' either as Arista says and because your thoughts fall more with his thoughts..)...I think it's often just completely opposing opinions and maybe sometimes a failing to understand each perspective so frustrations with that..but whatever the perspective, each has their own validity and reasoning for those opinions...as with most things in life, I think..there is no right, there is no wrong, there is no black, there is no white and it's a bit of this and a bit of that...yes, we have to all be vigilant and aware of the world around us and of people who mean is great harm...but we must be careful also I think to not let our 'fears' etc, rule our humanity and who we are, otherwise terrorism has won, we are lost etc/if that makes sense...we must not create 'victims' with our fear and help terrorism on it's way...

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Sure.
From any of the links
SkyNews
D.M
The Sun.

There a Democracy
so online must be Edited
and Removed

People Power

..yeah, I do imagine that comments are removed from all media stories, Arista and not just from this one... but I meant more that if these ones left there are deemed to be ok to leave, then the ones removed must have been pretty awful because the ones left are also pretty awful and racist...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....hmmmm, some of those comments really are pretty darn racist tbh...'Why has my post been removed? All I did was echo what other people are saying'...I'm guessing that the reason for the removals is for that very reason and if these are the ones which have been allowed/not removed then others must have been extremely grim indeed...I do understand that people are fearful/these are scary times and I think that's a huge factor for many people but it still doesn't make it any less racist/the vein of many of those comments...


..anyways, I know that I'm on my high horse about this atm, which I have personal reasons for but I do think that this total focus on radicalisation in so many areas of society atm is so not helping at all and almost inciting racism/suspicion etc...and I do know that it's important also, you know so should be a focus but it seems to me to be detracting from so many other 'families in need' which are just taking a secondary place...these families are everywhere and every day, there isn't a community that doesn't have them on their very doorstep but I think a 'radicalised family' or person within a family is something that would be a comparatively rare thing/and perspective with that, I think...IS may be growing but IS is not everywhere...

Yes Sure.
From any of the links
SkyNews
D.M
The Sun.

There a Democracy
so online must be Edited
and Removed

People Power