[hot2go]

I think winning is more important to Darren than anyone else....it's value is life changing for him. It's so much more than just winning a game show

Least appreciative of its value is Gemma, for whom winning will neither change or improve her personslity and Steph, who I like, but who is so immature she doesn't have the capacity to realise it's value.

The person who doesn't need to win but actually could is John because he's already achieved way above what he set out to do so that makes him a winner already.

And the person the most desperate to win is Tiffany because she only sees losing as failure....she thinks that coming first and being the best are the same thing, a much more American concept than English one.

Scotty and Daniela are just winging it, and have been since day one.

[waterhog]

I like your views hot2go - and I agree. really explains what people are on how they act and I think the same as you.

lets hope we don't have steph and gem 1st and 2nd.

[reece(:]

Tiffany needs it the most!

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by waterhog

I like your views hot2go - and I agree. really explains what people are on how they act and I think the same as you.

lets hope we don't have steph and gem 1st and 2nd.

I think top 3 will be between John, Tiffany and Darren.....i think it could be the first top 3 that's over 30 in a very long time ....a 47 year old straight guy, a 42 year old gay guy and a 34 year old black American woman.....don't get more diverse than that.

[Beso]

most, whoever you are a fan off....least whoever you dislike most....or gemma.

[susie q]

Darren would be the most appreciative, and potentially make the most of it.
Tiffany is the most desperate, but least appreciative. She will just go back to the US and her career there.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by susie q

Darren would be the most appreciative, and potentially make the most of it.
Tiffany is the most desperate, but least appreciative. She will just go back to the US and her career there.

I think so too, I've been confronted for that opinion before now, people saying its a race thing, but I dont see it as a race thing, I just think it's a waste to support someone and see them win, only to watch them go back to the U.S and disappear off our radar. It shows a lack of appreciation from the winner. We don't really get to find out much about them afterwards and some of us don't really care.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Tiffany needs it the most!

The thread is about appreciation not desperation

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I think so too, I've been confronted for that opinion before now, people saying its a race thing, but I dont see it as a race thing, I just think it's a waste to support someone and see them win, only to watch them go back to the U.S and disappear off our radar. It shows a lack of appreciation from the winner. We don't really get to find out much about them afterwards and some of us don't really care.

that's right its not about race - my point is this is tiffanys job - a reality star who has her own show - if you want to crown someone a winner because they no inside out how to play the game and what gets the attention - well that is up to you but I like BB and CBB for the game and the quality's I see in people and then I make my judgement. not because they want or demand attention in a direct way - ie gemma locking in toilet or tiff - talking to herself as she no's this will be picked up.

wake up everyone please.