[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I love you really.

Flattery will get you anywhere

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Flattery will get you anywhere

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

It's all the more better when people complain that Tiffany is strategic, yet unlike a lot of housemates in BB, she, the supposedly 'strategic' housemate, didn't use her loss for sympathy. She played the game, yes, and she was strategic, but she wasn't sly enough to use her loss for votes, but instead went forward and went from boos to cheers and is one of the favourites to win without looking for sympathy once. Even if you don't like her, you must have some respect for her not mentioning it for pity votes.

Yes it would be interesting to see from the Tiffany haters what they think as they're normally quite vocal (I'm not baiting btw, I'm genuinely curious if even her haters would respect her for this)

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Yes it would be interesting to see from the Tiffany haters what they think as they're normally quite vocal (I'm not baiting btw, I'm genuinely curious if even her haters would respect her for this)

As am I

I kinda relate given I respect to HMs I hate not sharing their pity stories that don't like (Cristian not mentioning him being deaf being the most recent example that comes to mind - even though it not being comparable in anyway to Tiffany's loss)

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So you decided to do it for her

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes but John has mentioned his mum several times so doesn't belong in this discussion young lady.

I don't recall him once mentioning his mom.....or mentioning how he put his career on hold to look after...and he only mentioned his dad once and it was a very relevant point in the context of what he was trying to convey at the time...

And Jeremy could have milked his sad past right up to taking the prize, his story is painfully cruel....so to dismiss them both and imply that Tiffany is the only one with integrity because she didn't play that card is wrong....you are wrong.

To defend Tiffany and only Tiffany without ever giving credit to anyone else at any time is such a one sided point of view that I find i can't take it seriously

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I don't recall him once mentioning his mom.....

So?

You can't recall it so it never happened?

Maybe you should only join the discussion when you've watched it and paid attention?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Jeremy lost his mom, brother and sister in the same year when he was only 15 and he didn't tell anyone in there, Johns dad died and then his mom developed Alzheimer's and for the last two years he's been her career and didn't talk about it...so she's not that unique.

John has spoken about his mother's illness multiple times...

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So?

You can't recall it so it never happened?

Maybe you should only join the discussion when you've watched it and paid attention?

That's a weak reaction...maybe back it up with some examples where he talked about his mother outside of the telephone task...I've watched every episode so I would like to know what I missed

[joeysteele]

Being fair to Tiffany, she has never played any sympathy card and all of that is to her massive credit in my opinion.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

That's a weak reaction...maybe back it up with some examples where he talked about his mother outside of the telephone task...I've watched every episode so I would like to know what I missed

It's my job to update you on events you've missed?

Do you also want me to provide a concise list of everything dumb Gemma said?

I haven't the time.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

John has spoken about his mother's illness multiple times...

Thanks for the information, please give examples to constitute your reply cause I gen want to know what I missed....

And Jeremy, am I wrong about him too and therefore this thread IS correct and Tiffany is the only one with heartbreak who didn't exploit it to gain votes ? Please explain cause I would like the correct facts and you seem to have them.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's my job to update you on events you've missed?

Do you also want me to provide a concise list of everything dumb Gemma said?

I haven't the time.

You're absolutely right, it's not your job to update others on what they've missed but it's your place to back up your statements with actual reality if you expect others to take you seriously

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Thanks for the information, please give examples to constitute your reply cause I gen want to know what I missed....

And Jeremy, am I wrong about him too and therefore this thread IS correct and Tiffany is the only one with heartbreak who didn't exploit it to gain votes ? Please explain cause I would like the correct facts and you seem to have them.

As Marsh said go back and check yourself, I remember him mentioning it (as do others) and you don't.

He mentioned it to Darren at one point for sure saying he was doing BB to afford for her care.

[billy123]

Wow have i really just read a thread trying to use other peoples personal tragedies as a point scoring exercise just over a crappy tv show.
Low really low.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

You're absolutely right, it's not your job to update others on what they've missed but it's your place to back up your statements with actual reality if you expect others to take you seriously

It is reality. Hence why we discuss what happened on the show after watching and not having to recap everything from every episode every time we post.

Your lapse in memory is not the thread's problem.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Wow have i really just read a thread trying to use other peoples personal tragedies as a point scoring exercise just over a crappy tv show.
Low really low.

I don't see anyone doing that...the thread was actually created to say how much the OP admired Tiffany for not mentioning personal tragedy...

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I don't see anyone doing that...the thread was actually created to say how much the OP admired Tiffany for not mentioning personal tragedy...

I dont doubt for a second you dont see it.
Have fun i will leave you to it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hot2go

That's a weak reaction...maybe back it up with some examples where he talked about his mother outside of the telephone task...I've watched every episode so I would like to know what I missed

I must have missed it too, lets have some proof of these multiple times she is mentioned

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It is reality. Hence why we discuss what happened on the show after watching and not having to recap everything from every episode every time we post.

Your lapse in memory is not the thread's problem.

So that's a no then

My memory must be failing me if what you say is correct cause I don't recall John talking about his moms illness other than when he had his call from home....never mind, it's obv correct what you say so I'm sure someone will be able to help clarify that for me at some point.

My post saying that it's bollox that Tiffany is the only housemate who should be praised for her integrity over their personal life must be incorrect.

I still wait to be corrected about Jeremy.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by hot2go

My memory must be failing me

Yeah, it must be.

[chuff me dizzy]

Maybe because its a lie and she knows people would out it as a lie

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Wow have i really just read a thread trying to use other peoples personal tragedies as a point scoring exercise just over a crappy tv show.
Low really low.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Maybe because its a lie and she knows people would out it as a lie

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Is there a link to the info,I would be interested in reading that