[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i dont think it can turn them chaos but it could be the slippery slope, look at marsh, he was straight until he came on tibb and now look at him

I haven't changed a bit.

[Kizzy]

Traditional to an extent, I don't like the quick fix masculinity of today like taking steroids, living in the gym and drinking protein shakes.

[Firewire]

Masculinity and femininity are hard terms to grasp, because it's based completely around stereotypes. But often femininity is used as a negative term in relation to men and masculinity used as a positive, and vice versa. But why are any of these traits bad (or good)?

In relation to the colour pink, I personally don't see anything wrong with babies being colour coordinated. It's hard to tell whether babies are male or female, this would make for easy recognition.

But this shouldn't mean that boys and girls can't alternate colours. Colours don't define who you are. Whether someone actively chooses to wear a certain colour or style, they shouldn't be judged for not being man or woman enough. It's ridiculous.

I see pink as a feminine colour. Society has taught me that. But that doesn't necessarily mean it shouldn't be worn by men. I don't have pink clothes because I don't like the colour. I don't like green or yellow either.

Make-up is a product aimed at women. Women are taught to be self-conscious whereas men are not. I don't wear make-up because I've never felt the need to. But if I wanted to wear eye-liner (which I think looks really good on guys) then I would go ahead and do it... maybe.

Pink and make-up are feminine because of social constructs.

The focus is mainly on men because women are more free to express themselves without being judged.

Men shouldn't wear skirts! Well, a kilt is a skirt and that's seen as an incredibly masculine thing to do. I ****ing hate kilts. Not because I don't want to wear a skirt, but because tartan is hideous.

I don't really know what the point of this post is, or what these examples mean. But people should be allowed to express themselves if they want to. They shouldn't be forced to do anything they don't want to. And if someone doesn't express themselves, that's also okay.

[Babayaro.]

I love Wikipedia

[Babayaro.]

But I agree though, Jonathan

[jennyjuniper]

Some changes have been good, more freedom for women than when I was a child. The right to be openly gay, again very different from my childhood when homosexuality was a crime.
However when it comes to men I find the changes not so good. I preferred it when men were men and didn't fart about with moisterisers, hair bleach and teeth whiteners. I also preferred the days when children usually had just the one father and not a constant stream of 'dads' passing through their lives.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Some changes have been good, more freedom for women than when I was a child. The right to be openly gay, again very different from my childhood when homosexuality was a crime.
However when it comes to men I find the changes not so good. I preferred it when men were men and didn't fart about with moisterisers, hair bleach and teeth whiteners. I also preferred the days when children usually had just the one father and not a constant stream of 'dads' passing through their lives.

On the flip side to that, dads are allowed to be properly involved with their kids nowadays when in past generations that was the mothers job and they missed out on quite a lot imo

[Crimson Dynamo]

Some of us have no choice but to be a mum and a dad