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There will always be issues with MPs and prospective MPs in all Parties, just as there are in other walks of life too.

Obviously you are likely to then find more in Parties who are bigger and have a great many more MPs, although a few of the listed things are not by people convicted of any crimes, or are in fact even actual crimes anyway.

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and your party is full of paedos



I will take the bigots
I have a party? That's news to me.

You seem to be making a lot of silly assumptions today, LT.

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You seem to be making a lot of silly assumptions today, LT.
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Hmm, if you're gonna try and gun for me LT you should put some actual effort into it. These jabs are incredibly weak and aren't even accurate.

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Bob - I support UKIP because they are the ONLY UK party who have the guts to address the two issues which I personally regard as the most problematic and severely damaging to this country - Unfettered Immigration and our corrupt membership of the corrupt E.U.

That does not make me a 'nutter' Bob.


Well i'm a nutter too then.They are stronger on these two issues than both the main parties.Both of which stand for things i strongly disagree with aswell.One of which has Jeremy Corbyn.
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It looks like they were red flagged but through the democratic appeal process were able to stand legally.

To try and somehow say that the other two main parties have candidates with unblemished records is ludicrous


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Convicted MPs - at a glance

Labour Councillor (Northampton/Northamptonshire), and former School Governor, Alec Dyer-Atkins – Convicted and jailed for 2 years in 2003 for downloading more than 42,000 pictures and films described in court as “Horrifying images of child abuse”. Dyer-Atkins was a member of an international paedophile ring called `The Shadows Brotherhood` which was successfully penetrated following sterling work by Britain’s National Hi-Tech Crime Unit (NHTCU). Commenting on the conviction of the depraved Labour Party beast, NHTCU Deputy Head, Mick Deats said: “This man had some of the worst images on his computers that officers from this unit have ever viewed”.

Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell - Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.

. Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys - Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children.

. Tory Party Vice-Chairman of Welsh Conservatives, Andrew Baker - Received a banning order for stalking women.

. Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor - Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys, and was forced to resign.

. Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington - Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC. Placed on sex offenders register and forced to resign.

. Tory Party councillor ( Coventry ), Peter Stidworthy - Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.

. Tory Party Mayor ( North Tyneside ), Chris Morgan - Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.

. Tory Party MEP, Tom Spencer - Caught smuggling drugs and porn through customs.

. Tory Party councillor and former Mayor (Wrexham), Michael Morris - Convicted and put on probation for 2 years, for the indecent assault of another man, which was captured on CCTV.

. Tory Party Liaison Manager on the London Assembly, Douglas Campbell, who’s job includes running the Tory GLA website - Arrested for allegedly downloading child porn. He is currently suspended while the Police investigation continues.

. Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn - Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.

. Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner - Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.

. Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green - Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault against little girls between the age of 6 and 10. He raped one woman on her wedding day.

. Labour Mayor (Todmordon) John Winstanley - Convicted and jailed for rape and threats to kill. After raping and threatening to kill his terrified victim, Winstanley then ordered the woman to go on all fours before urinating on her.

. Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.

. Labour’s current Parliamentary Candidate (Reading East) Tony Page - Has 2 Convictions for Acts of Gross Indecency` in public toilets.

. Labour Mayor (Burnley) Mark Swainston - Convicted of sex offences in public toilet.

. Entire Labour Party conspired to conceal the activities of Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.

. Labour Councillor (North Yorkshire) Raymond Coats - Court appearance for indecently assaulting a woman.

. Labour MP (Rhonda Valley) Chris Bryant poses in his pants on the Internet to advertise himself for casual gay sex encounters. Describes himself as “Horny as bu**ery” and says, “I’d love a good long ******”.

. Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding - Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

. Labour MP Ron Davies was mugged by a Rasta on Clapham Common while cruising for gay sex. He was photographed again by the media recently, engaged in some `man-on-man` action in a field off a motorway. “I was only looking for badgers” he said.

. Labour Councillor (Durham), Derrick Payne - Arrested by Police following a sex attack.

. Labour MP, Joe Ashton - Caught up in a Police raid while frequenting a brothel. Tried to lie his way out of the scandal.

. Labour Councillor (Shropshire), Derek Woodvine - Arrested by Police in anti-porn operation.

. Labour Councillor (Basildon), Tony Wright - Forced to resign after being caught using his council computer to download porn.

. Labour MP (Sheffield), Clive Betts - Suspended from Parliament for 7 days after being caught forging immigration papers to extend the stay of his Brazilian rent-boy gay lover.


* Senior clerk Phillip Lyon, who arranges the weekly Prime Minister’s Question Time for Tony Blair, was arrested after vice cops raided his Commons office.Lyon, 37, is accused of making indecent images of children.
* The Labour Party in Calderdale has been plunged into a crisis as their lead candidate, and former Mayor of Hebden Royd, Stewart Brown, has been arrested on suspicion of child porn offences.

Labour Councillor and Deputy Council Leader (Northumberland), John Whiteman, who was also a senior member of the local police authority – Convicted and fined in 2002 for soliciting a prostitute in the red light district of Middlesbrough. The court heard Whitman was arrested in his car as Police discovered him in a “state of undress” with a lady of the night he had just paid Ł35 for sex. He subsequently resigned from the council.


Labour Councillor (Stoke/Staffordshire), Michael Barnes, put forward a motion in July 2004 to change the constitution of Stoke-on-Trent Council. The proposed amendments were designed to prevent the City’s two British National Party councillors from chairing any committees, so as to `protect` the good citizens of Stoke from the beastly BNP types they’d voted for in huge numbers to represent them. As Mr Barnes explained to the local paper, the move was “to prevent the BNP from exerting more influence”, and was “in the best interests of the people of Stoke-on-Trent”. A few months later, in November 2004, the civic-minded and virtuous Councillor Barnes appeared at North Staffordshire Magistrates Court, to face seven different charges relating to child pornography

Labour Councillor (Durham), Derrick Payne – Arrested by Police following a sex attack

Labour Councillor and former Mayor (Halton/Cheshire), Liam Temple - Convicted in 2004 of `Inciting a child under 16 to commit an act of gross indecency` after the 58-year old Labour pervert had attempted to molest a 12-year old girl. During the case, the brave youngster told the court via a video link: “He said if I let him touch me he would give me money”.

Labour Councillor (Coxhoe/Durham), Les Sheppard – Convicted in 2004 on ten counts of indecent assault on young girls. Jailed for 2 years, and placed on the sex offenders register for 10 years. Teeside Crown Court heard how 71 year old Cllr Sheppard lured his victims into his gold Porsche before driving them to remote spots, where he would submit them to sickening sex attacks. After his arrest, the Labour nonce-case told police “I love women, but you do things which you regret”. Sheppard’s `women` victims were between 9 and 13 years old.

According to media reports, the names of 2 former Labour Cabinet Ministers said to be `Household names` appear on the `Operation Ore` list of subscribers to hard-core child pornography. The same FBI investigation, which led to the arrest of rock star Pete Townshend. So who are they Mr. Blair?

Yusef Azad – One of Ken Livingston’s overpaid left-wing cronies on the London Assembly gravy train – Resigned from his 60K-plus a year job `assisting` Assembly members, after being arrested on suspicion of downloading child porn in 2003.


Labour Councillor (Wokingham/Berkshire), Nelson Bland – Convicted on 16 counts of possession and distribution of hardcore child porn in 2004. Sentenced to community service, placed on the sex offender’s register and ordered to attend rehabilitation classes for paedophiles. Bland used his own teenage daughters computer to hoard his grotesque gallery of child abuse, which was discovered by police during a search of Bland`s home, when they arrested him in connection with the murder of a Nottingham businessman

Labour Councillor and Mayor-Elect (Merton/London), Sam Chaudry – Due to become Merton’s first Asian Mayor, before he was arrested, tried and convicted of multiple sex attacks on young girls in 1999. One of his victims was a 5-year old.

Labour Councillor (Halton/Leeds), Lee Benson – Convicted and awaiting sentence in 2005, after pleading guilty on 12 counts of possession of indecent images of children, featuring youngsters between the ages of 5 and 11. Benson, who has a child of his own, repaid the fools who voted for him by storing his revolting kiddie porn collection on the computer provided for him by the council. Benson has been `suspended` - not expelled - by the Labour Party, which means his name remains on the Labour Party membership list, as well as on the sex offenders register. As to which is the more shameful – take your pick!

Labour Councillor (Bridgend/South Wales), Iestyn Tudor Davies – Convicted, jailed for 7 years, and placed on the sex offender’s register for life in 2005, for repeatedly raping a 9-year old girl


Labour Councillor (Newham/London), Greg Vincent, who was the Election Agent to Labour MP Tony Banks at the 2001 General Election – Convicted and given a 2-year community rehabilitation order in 2003, for possession of hardcore kiddie porn films and photos, featuring children as young as 8. One of the photos the Labour Councillor found so entertaining, featured – as described in court – a girl aged around 10, naked except for a dog-collar, being assaulted and abused while her hands were tied behind her back around a beam. Vincent was also a School Governor

Prominent Edinburgh Labour party activist and election candidate, Rab Knox - Convicted and jailed for 3 years in 2005 for a horrific sex attack on a woman passenger in his taxi cab.

Labour Party Official (North West England Regional Officer, and parliamentary adviser to the Home Office Minister responsible for crime and policing, Hazel Blears), Peter Tuffley – Convicted and jailed for 15 months and placed on the sex offenders register for 10 years in 2006, for the sexual molestation of a 13-year old boy that he had previously `groomed` on the internet. Tuffley was described as a `rising star` within the Labour Party - which is nothing to be proud of either


Labour Councillor (Hornchurch/Essex), Alan Prescott, who was also a senior magistrate – Convicted and jailed for 2 years in 2001, for molesting children at the East London care home where he was the superintendent. Prescott, described in court as a “pillar of his local community” admitted carrying out sex attacks on four teenage boys as they slept in their beds


Labour Parliamentary candidate (Cheadle/Cheshire), Paul Diggert – Subject of a 2002 police investigation into the alleged procurement of underage girls for sexual purposes via internet chatrooms. According to the `Sunday Mirror` (3/11/02), Diggert had admitted to having four underage girls that he was `grooming` for sex. In 2004 Diggert was convicted of making and distributing indecent pictures of children


Labour Councillor (Dagenham/London), Terry Power – Forced to resign in 1999 after being arrested and charged with sex attacks on teenage boys. Details of trial and conviction to follow.

Labour Councillor (Westlands/Worcestershire), Keith Rogers – Convicted, fined, and placed on the sex offender’s register in 2003, after downloading over 2,000 hardcore child porn photos on his computer

Labour councillor Ex-Paston councillor Gilbert Benn (48) A former city councillor was a five-year jail sentence for molesting an 11-year-old boy and threatening the youngster’s mother in a bid to cover his tracks.

A FORMER Wirral Tory councillor led a secret life looking at indecent images of children. While his wife and two daughters slept upstairs, Ian McKellar spent hours poring over child porn downloaded from the internet onto his computer. Ex-Tory councillor was sentenced after admitting child porn charges

Former Children’s Minister and prior to that, chair of the Campaign For Civil Liberties Harriet Harmann while in CCL, collaborated with the Pedophile Information Exchange and another pedophile activist groups in a campaign to decriminalise/legalise child pornography.

http://www.conspiracytruths.co.uk/mp...exoffense.html

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Just to add there has been no clarification as to whether these MPs had been found guilty of anything prior to being elected.

Therefore it is simply copy pasta, it serves no purpose and has no relevance whatsoever to this thread, not once has it been suggested an elected MP has not been found to be guilty of a crime.
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I don't really care about past convictions, as long as they've paid for their crimes and are trying to change their ways then I don't care about it.

It's the fact that UKIP is a gathering ground for loud rampaging bigots that's the bigger concern.
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UKIP are irrelevant again now anyways, they had there 5 mins of fame
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You so obviously do not meet the Great British Public so much Sam if you really believe that.
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*cough* European Union vote
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"Convicted MPs - at a glance"


Yes LT
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*cough* European Union vote


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Absolutely loving that the main defence of this is "UKIP are fine because everyone else is awful too" . Most excellent comeback.

Labour and the Tories being full of rancid old paedophiles, sadly for U Kippers, doesn't change the fact that UKIP is demonstrably full of racists, homophobes and misogynists.

Its not that these people have committed crimes. It's fairly evident that some of these other crimes are far WORSE than these UKIP allegations. What is important, though, is that while more serious, these actions don't have the same sorts of political implications as, for example, racially motivated violence and links to fascist organisations.

In other words, the heinous crimes listed for these other MPs speak volumes about their individual characters. Awful, awful people. But with the UKIP revelations, it's the fact that repeatedly, a very specific type of person with very specific prejudices and temperaments are drawn to that party like moths to a flame.

Now just to pre-emptively address some outrage: I'm not saying that ALL UKIP supporters are that sort of person. I'm just saying that that sort of person finds their political "home" with UKIP, and it would be a bare faced lie to pretend there isn't a reason for that.
Very good points being made here. Because none of us want to see ex criminals, paedophiles or sex offenders in office, none of us would deliberately vote in such a people. We will however, willingly and deliberately vote in homophobic, racist bigots.

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yes TS and the labour party attracts a bunch of hand wringing champagne socialists who are in it to climb the greasy pole whilst pretending to be for the working man

equally odious
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equally odious
Again LT I'm not really on board with the "UKIP must be OK because everyone else is also crap" defense...

...the fact that other parties are just as bad or worse doesn't make them any less of what they are. It's a sad state of affairs that British politics essentially comes down to begrudgingly picking out what we consider to be the "best of a bad bunch".

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I will take the bigots
How embarrassing for you.

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So UKIP has racists AND paedophiles. A pick'n'mix of villainy, if you will.

No chocolate coated raisins though .
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It's the fact that UKIP is a gathering ground for loud rampaging bigots that's the bigger concern.
Who told you that? was it the media, with influence from the government? or you just know this for fact?

How ***k**g dare you call them bigots you nasty piece of work.

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Who told you that? was it the media, with influence from the government? or you just know this for fact?

How ***k**g dare you call them bigots you nasty piece of work.
Its fairly common knowledge that white supremacists and former BNP voters feel at home in the Ukip stable. You don't need to read media reports to know that up until 2014 Farage was co president of EFD which also had representatives like 'True Finns' and 'Lega Nord'.

Why take that comment so personally
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Its fairly common knowledge that white supremacists and former BNP voters feel at home in the Ukip stable. You don't need to read media reports to know that up until 2014 Farage was co president of EFD which also had representatives like 'True Finns' and 'Lega Nord'.

Why take that comment so personally
I think Wannashag was being facetious Red.
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Who told you that? was it the media, with influence from the government? or you just know this for fact?

How ***k**g dare you call them bigots you nasty piece of work.
The fact that their politicians were being outed as bigots every other week during the election. UKIP is basically the Donald Trump/Tea Party of UK politics.
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