[Northern Monkey]

Youtube video

Women being granted divorce from violent husbands by British courts but refused by the Sharia court unless they give access to their children to these violent muslim men.
The first reaction by the Sharia court to an abused women is to find out if the woman is at fault for the violence by the man.Asking questions regarding whether the woman cleans the house etc.

If a muslim woman wants a divorce then she has to pay back her dowry wheras the man can divorce for free.
Men can take multiple wives leaving women at a financial disadvantage.
These are the parrallel laws which are in place in many muslim areas of Britain.They are not recognised by British law but are in place now in our country.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Muslim men are permitted to beat their wives

[the truth]

ffs its an absolute disgrace.....but the irony is this is the labour party and the liberals fault ....the people who are meant to protect women have in fact unprotected tm with too much political correctness. this is not even a small section this is enmasse. makes me sick, we have simply got to wipe out all these courts before they grow too widespread

[Alf]

Where are The Feminist's when you need them?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Where are The Feminist's when you need them?

Im right here

[Northern Monkey]

It is a disgrace that these kangaroo courts are not being shut down.They legally have no power but they have influence over whole communities.They don't recognise British law.To them it means nothing.Sharia law has absolutely no place in Britain.It is primitive and oppressive.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Muslim men are permitted to beat their wives

not just permitted, some muslim leaders tell the men that it's their muslim DUTY to beat their wives. so they actually tell men that aren't violent that they should be MORE violent with their wives to be a good muslim.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by lostalex

not just permitted, some muslim leaders tell the men that it's their muslim DUTY to beat their wives. so they actually tell men that aren't violent that they should be MORE violent with their wives to be a good muslim.

very disturbing matter.

( I do like the sound of being allowed to have lots of wives but I would be delighted with 1 )

[bots]

I don't know where people get a lot of this fiction from. A Sharia court has to fall within the laws of the land

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I don't know where people get a lot of this fiction from. A Sharia court has to fall within the laws of the land

FICTION??? Do you personally KNOW any MUSLIM wives who have suffered because of these Sharia Courts? I do in Huddersfield.

And saying that they have to 'fall within the law of the land' is like saying that a lot of 'Corner Shops' cannot sell smuggled skank cigarettes from 'under the counter', a lot of 'Off Licences' cannot sell intoxicating drinks to - obvious - under 18 year olds, and that there are NO criminals in the UK because it is 'against the law'.

I warned about these 'Courts' on here a long while ago, and there is nothing 'FICTIONAL' in what Paul writes.

[bots]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

FICTION??? Do you personally KNOW any MUSLIM wives who have suffered because of these Sharia Courts? I do in Huddersfield.

And saying that they have to 'fall within the law of the land' is like saying that a lot of 'Corner Shops' cannot sell smuggled skank cigarettes from 'under the counter', a lot of 'Off Licences' cannot sell intoxicating drinks to - obvious - under 18 year olds, and that there are NO criminals in the UK because it is 'against the law'.

I warned about these 'Courts' on here a long while ago, and there is nothing 'FICTIONAL' in what Paul writes.

It may have escaped your notice, but any married couple in the UK can beat the crap out of each other without an eyebrow being raised unless one of them decides to take the issue to the police. The same applies to those of the muslim faith.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It may have escaped your notice, but any married couple in the UK can beat the crap out of each other without an eyebrow being raised unless one of them decides to take the issue to the police. The same applies to those of the muslim faith.

That is not true. If a member of the 'battered' partner's family, a work colleague, or indeed a neighbour KNOWS of Domestic Abuse, and they call the Police, then the Police can investigate and prosecute whether the victim cooperates or not.

In addition BOTS, ALL abuse is unacceptable, but there is a vast difference between individual cases of 'Domestic Abuse' - no matter how widespread - than there is in 'Institutional' abuse of wives, as in Muslim culture and as 'Sanctioned and Mandated' by Sharia Courts.

This is NOT an anti-Muslim issue, it is an anti-Abuse of women issue.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I don't know where people get a lot of this fiction from. A Sharia court has to fall within the laws of the land

The vid in the op is a BBC documentary with hidden camera footage.No fiction involved.

[Kizzy]

The use of a sharia court has to be agreed by both parties, if there was abuse and there is police involvement then I would like to think that there would be support not to go down that route.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

The vid in the op is a BBC documentary with hidden camera footage.No fiction involved.

So let me just clarify. This is being made out that it is a court that allows muslims to break the uk law and follow their own laws instead. That is simply untrue and completely misleading.

As I said above, Sharia law has to fall within the remits of UK law. That being the case, while we may not like what they are doing, ANYONE, whatever their religion, is free to do the same thing within the UK.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The use of a sharia court has to be agreed by both parties, if there was abuse and there is police involvement then I would like to think that there would be support not to go down that route.

Alot of these cases are women wanting divorces.The Sharia courts side with the man even if he is abusive.They want to know what the woman is doing wrong to deserve what the man is doing to her.
The first case in that vid is the woman saying she has had enough of her husband and the court has been saying "just give him one more month" for over a year.
If a man wants a divorce it is much easier.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Alot of these cases are women wanting divorces.The Sharia courts side with the man even if he is abusive.They want to know what the woman is doing wrong to deserve what the man is doing to her.
The first case in that vid is the woman saying she has had enough of her husband and the court has been saying "just give him one more month" for over a year.
If a man wants a divorce it is much easier.

I see that, there is support out there for Muslim women seeking divorce via the police in cases of abuse as has been highlighted.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Where are The Feminist's when you need them?

This is something that really really irritates me about modern day 'feminists'. They are happy to hate on anything to do with the media/something a politician/famous person says etc, but as soon as something bad happens to a woman of the muslim community, nothing is said. Like these sex ring scandals, people would rather discuss something someone famous said, than discuss what 6+ men did to underage girls for months whist no one knew.

[arista]

Yes it goes on
We need more Docu's on this mess

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

So let me just clarify. This is being made out that it is a court that allows muslims to break the uk law and follow their own laws instead. That is simply untrue and completely misleading.

As I said above, Sharia law has to fall within the remits of UK law. That being the case, while we may not like what they are doing, ANYONE, whatever their religion, is free to do the same thing within the UK.

A direct quote from the documentary by a barrister specialising in family law who has been to many hearings at Sharia councils "They're totally unregulated,unauthorised,there's no accountability and many of them are not operating in accordance with UK law"

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

It is a disgrace that these kangaroo courts are not being shut down.They legally have no power but they have influence over whole communities.They don't recognise British law.To them it means nothing.Sharia law has absolutely no place in Britain.It is primitive and oppressive.

I agree,if they cant abide by British rules they should pack up their **** and fcuk off,these low lifes will if left , fester and set back ,a once great country.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I agree,if they cant abide by British rules they should pack up their **** and fcuk off,these low lifes will if left , fester and set back ,a once great country.

(Kirk style)

[bots]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

A direct quote from the documentary by a barrister specialising in family law who has been to many hearings at Sharia councils "They're totally unregulated,unauthorised,there's no accountability and many of them are not operating in accordance with UK law"

In order to have the law come into effect, in these type of things, the aggrieved person has to seek recourse. If that person chooses to accept it, there is generally very little that can be done.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

In order to have the law come into effect, in these type of things, the aggrieved person has to seek recourse. If that person chooses to accept it, there is generally very little that can be done.

At least it's something of which the victim has control over, and it appears to be taken seriously. Unlike the reference to abuses within the church that seems to be joked about like some accepted social norm now :/

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

At least it's something of which the victim has control over, and it appears to be taken seriously. Unlike the reference to abuses within the church that seems to be joked about like some accepted social norm now :/

It's not a good situation for abused women at all Kizzy. It's hard enough for non-muslim to leave abusive relationships, these sharia courts make it exponentially harder for muslim women.

These unrecognized courts have far too much power within the muslim community.