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Old 07-03-2016, 12:06 PM #1
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Well surely they can be. I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding of the word "comparison" to be honest, like I said, with people believing that "compare" and "equate" mean the same when they don't. "There's no comparison!!1!!1"... Well... Of course there is. I could write a lengthy post comparing Hitler to a banana sundae, if the mood were to strike. Or anything else. There may be no similarity at all... That would be a part of the comparison?

So yes, compare any right wing politician to a facist dictator and you will inevitably find similarities to highlight. That's inevitable. Just as it's inevitable that you will be able to find similarities between left wing politicians and hard socialism / communism / Marxism. The Tories for example absolutely love to do just that?

So, it is in fact perfectly valid to compare Trump with Hitler. There's no inherent problem with it, if it's just part of the conversation and explained. There ARE similarities in the reasons that they rose to popularity, there ARE similarities in their rhetoric. Should it be off limits to say so just because of the wider implications? In my opinion, no, but I guess it depends on your audience and your intent. Pointing these things out is not the same as saying "Trump = Hitler! Trump is a Nazi!"

IMO Godwin's law comes into play, then, when "Nazi" or "Hitler" is used as the descriptor itself without further examination or elaboration. When the entire argument is "X is a Nazi", "Y is Nazi propaganda" etc.

There's no inherent problem with comparison.
Godwin invented his law to make people try and think a little deeper and avoid the obvious just because you dont like something

Hopefully today maybe people have

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Godwin invented his law to make people try and think a little deeper and avoid the obvious just because you dont like something

Hopefully today maybe people have
He sure did. He didn't invent the law to block anyone from ever drawing any parallels with Hitler or the Nazis in any circumstance. That would be ridiculous.
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He sure did. He didn't invent the law to block anyone from ever drawing any parallels with Hitler or the Nazis in any circumstance. That would be ridiculous.
indeed, it was to make them think deeper
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indeed, it was to make them think deeper
One can think deeply about the meteoric rise of Donald Trump in politics and still come out of it with unsettling Hitler tease. Trust me.
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One can think deeply about the meteoric rise of Donald Trump in politics and still come out of it with unsettling Hitler tease. Trust me.
Yes and you can probably do the same with the rise of Adele too
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Yes and you can probably do the same with the rise of Adele too
Nonsense LT. Yawn.
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Nonsense LT. Yawn.

" I could write a lengthy post comparing Hitler to a banana sundae, if the mood were to strike."




Dont yawn TS, pay attention

especially to your own posts.....



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Yes and you can probably do the same with the rise of Adele too
Adele is sexy facism isnt.


Sexy




Not Sexy


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Adele is sexy facism isnt.


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good bob I am glad you can now see that silly comparisons are wrong and unhelpful. Thankyou
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