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Old 08-03-2016, 08:33 AM #1
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Let's be real, the vast majority of the Trump hate from Europeans is just because they miss having Bush as a poster boy to use to Hate America, and they felt uncomfortable using Obama cause he's black... the Anti-Americans are just desperate for a a new white president so they can criticize the country without being called a racist. It really is just that simple.

Trumps statements about mexican immigration or muslim immigration is no worse than what many European politicians have said about the European migration/refugee situation at the moment.
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Let's be real, the vast majority of the Trump hate from Europeans is just because they miss having Bush as a poster boy to use to Hate America, and they felt uncomfortable using Obama cause he's black... the Anti-Americans are just desperate for a a new white president so they can criticize the country without being called a racist. It really is just that simple.

Trumps statements about mexican immigration or muslim immigration is no worse than what many European politicians have said about the European migration/refugee situation at the moment.
probably very true

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Let's be real, the vast majority of the Trump hate from Europeans is just because they miss having Bush as a poster boy to use to Hate America, and they felt uncomfortable using Obama cause he's black... the Anti-Americans are just desperate for a a new white president so they can criticize the country without being called a racist. It really is just that simple.

Trumps statements about mexican immigration or muslim immigration is no worse than what many European politicians have said about the European migration/refugee situation at the moment.
..as a non-American, I don't feel uncomfortable at all Alex in saying that Obama for me has seemed to be a fairly bland President, he just doesn't seem to have much substance of character at all...
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Let's be real, the vast majority of the Trump hate from Europeans is just because they miss having Bush as a poster boy to use to Hate America, and they felt uncomfortable using Obama cause he's black... the Anti-Americans are just desperate for a a new white president so they can criticize the country without being called a racist. It really is just that simple.

Trumps statements about mexican immigration or muslim immigration is no worse than what many European politicians have said about the European migration/refugee situation at the moment.
That's not really true Alex. I'm not anti-American at all, in fact at it's core values I very much like and admire America and the history of the United States. Much more than Europe, in many ways. I have issues with some aspects of American foreign and social policy but that's true of any country, nowhere is perfect. I would happily live in the US, I'm definitely not looking for "excuses to criticize" America, in fact I think the US as a concept always had, and probably does still have, great potential to legitimately be exemplary. You know. If it manages to keep people like Trump from getting their claws in...
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Let's be real, the vast majority of the Trump hate from Europeans is just because they miss having Bush as a poster boy to use to Hate America, and they felt uncomfortable using Obama cause he's black... the Anti-Americans are just desperate for a a new white president so they can criticize the country without being called a racist. It really is just that simple.

Trumps statements about mexican immigration or muslim immigration is no worse than what many European politicians have said about the European migration/refugee situation at the moment.
I think you're probably on to something there.
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Let's be real, the vast majority of the Trump hate from Europeans is just because they miss having Bush as a poster boy to use to Hate America, and they felt uncomfortable using Obama cause he's black... the Anti-Americans are just desperate for a a new white president so they can criticize the country without being called a racist. It really is just that simple.

Trumps statements about mexican immigration or muslim immigration is no worse than what many European politicians have said about the European migration/refugee situation at the moment.
100% agree. Im ashamed of the monstrous anti American racism that exists throughout every part of England and lots of Europe too. Whether one specifically calls America a race is irrelevant, this is bigotry and discrimination. Europeans love nothing more that slandering the americans. America is by the way way better place to live and visit and the people are infinitely friendlier. and us brits are dumber on average too
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100% agree. Im ashamed of the monstrous anti American racism that exists throughout every part of England and lots of Europe too. Whether one specifically calls America a race is irrelevant, this is bigotry and discrimination. Europeans love nothing more that slandering the americans. America is by the way way better place to live and visit and the people are infinitely friendlier. and us brits are dumber on average too
You're being bigoted and discriminatory against Brits. You're generalising wildly... most Brits I know love Americans and the American culture. I've lived and worked there... and they're more like us than I can say.
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You're being bigoted and discriminatory against Brits. You're generalising wildly... most Brits I know love Americans and the American culture. I've lived and worked there... and they're more like us than I can say.
This is why I find it hard to agree with lostalex's idea that it's all just an elaborate excuse to "bash" America. I've lived / worked in a variety of social settings and I've honestly never encountered this supposed hatred for America here in the UK . There was plenty of anti-Bush stuff, and Bush jokes, when he was president but it was all very much focussed on the man himself and not on generalisations of America or American people...
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Let's be real, the vast majority of the Trump hate from Europeans is just because they miss having Bush as a poster boy to use to Hate America, and they felt uncomfortable using Obama cause he's black... the Anti-Americans are just desperate for a a new white president so they can criticize the country without being called a racist. It really is just that simple.

Trumps statements about mexican immigration or muslim immigration is no worse than what many European politicians have said about the European migration/refugee situation at the moment.
Or most people just don't want an idiot in control of the most powerful country in the world. Also Obama's much more popular internationally than he is in the US so that point is rather silly.

It's not about hating America, nobody here hates America, if anything you seem to have an evident dislike for the UK/Europe given how you look to bring them up in irrelevant topics to bash them.
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