[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yep, nobody can align trump with a despot and yet he can align millions of innocents with terrorists :/
The golden rule?

It's a glorious mix of hypocrisy and white privilege.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Alf

Were the Jews committing terrorist attacks on Germany? Were the Jews preaching death to Germany?

Is it not the Presidents duty to protect it's Country's people?

Yet the muslims aren't committing terror attacks on America or preaching death to America, god I've had enough of people linking ISIS and Muslims as the same

[Alf]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Yet the muslims aren't committing terror attacks on America or preaching death to America, god I've had enough of people linking ISIS and Muslims as the same

Just woke up have we?

Morning

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Alf

Just woke up have we?

Morning

Uh?

[bitontheslide]

Trump is not saying all muslims, he is saying those that want to harm America. I think its amazing that he is being condemned for trying to protect Americans from terrorists

[kirklancaster]

WHAT THE FECK IS THAT IDIOTIC, BAD HAIR SPORTING, XENOPHOBIC, RACIST TRUMP BLAMING POOR MEXICANS FOR?

1)The United States is a lucrative market for illegal drugs.
2)The United Nations estimates that nearly 90% of cocaine sold in the United States originates in South America and is smuggled through Mexico.
3)Mexico is the largest foreign supplier of marijuana and the second largest source of heroin for the U.S. market.
4) The majority of methamphetamine sold in the United States is made in Mexico.
5) Mexican-run methamphetamine labs that operate north of the border account for much of the remainder.
6) Mexican drug cartels play a major role in the flow of cocaine, heroin, and marijuana transiting between Latin America and the United States.
7)These drug cartels often use Mexican-American gangs to distribute their narcotics.
8)Mexican drug cartels also have ties to Colombian drug traffickers, and other international organized crime.
9) A sharp spike in drug-related violence has some analysts worrying about the 'Colombianization' of Mexico.

DOESN'T IDIOT TRUMP KNOW THAT IT IS NOT VICIOUS CRIMINAL MEXICAN DRUG GANGS WHO ARE DIGGING TUNNELS INTO THE US, BUT GENIAL AND BENIGN PEACE LOVING MEXICANS WHO JUST WANT TO SMUGGLE BUNCHES OF FLOWERS INTO THE USA AS GESTURES OF NEIGHBOURLY LOVE?

AND DOESN'T THE IDIOT KNOW THAT THERE IS NO TRUTH IN THE RUMOURS THAT SEX SLAVES AND FEE PAYING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE BEING TRANSPORTED THROUGH THESE TUNNELS COURTESY OF VICIOUS 'PEOPLE TRAFFICKERS?

Mexican authorities find a drug smuggling tunnel close to the US border. Discovered in Tijuana, just two blocks from the border, this is the third tunnel found in the area since April. The unfinished passage emerges in a building belonging to an import/export company.

Over the past decade, more than 75 illegal tunnels have been found along the 2,000-mile US-Mexico border

http://www.theguardian.com/world/vid...unnel-us-video

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT IDIOT RACIST TRUMP DOESN'T KNOW ALL THIS WHEN A FEW OF THOSE SMART PEOPLE ON TIBB DO.

[Toy Soldier]

Cartels have little, if anything, to do with economic migration.

[billy123]

You must be so proud of him what a ****ing idiotfest.

Youtube video

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Cartels have little, if anything, to do with economic migration.

But their 'merchandise' has a hell of a lot to do with damaging the US economy.

America is in the grip of a devastating drug problem and collosal sums of money are being spent on Police, Security, Judicial, Prison, and Medical Services, by way of:

'Policing' the border.
Detecting the hundreds of thousands of criminals who work in the drug trade within America once those drugs are successfully smuggled by the Mexicans over or under the border.
Dealing with the thousands of violent crimes and murders which are 'Drug Related'
Maintaining the Penal Institutions where the above are sent when caught - which is the minority, as most are not caught.

The most severe damage which the drug cartels are responsible for causing to the USA though, is that inflicted upon the poorest and most vulnerable of its citizens who make up the largest group of users, and once addicted ALL hope of bettering their lives is gone - no matter how slim a chance they had of doing so anyway.

Trump is correct in what he says - even though he should have chosen his way of expressing what he says more wisely - and Mexicans ARE a MAJOR problem to the USA's Economy and Security.

The Drug Trade and People Trafficking are multi Billion Dollar industries, and wherever there are such huge amounts of money there is ALWAYS Goverment corruption, and some corrupt Mexicans in positions of authority are making huge sums from their corruption - from Mexican Politicians who are illicitly working FOR the Drug Cartels, to Immigration Agents and Border Guards who are assisting the Drug Smugglers and People Traffickers to 'smuggle' their 'merchandise' into the USA.

There are well documented cases of such Mexican Authorities offering valid US identification for sale, including US Passports and Social Security Numbers, and of Border Guards actually assisting illegal entry into the US by advising the 'Smugglers' and 'turning a blind eye'.

The $64,000 Dollar Question is this T.S.:

With such types of corruption among the Mexican Authorities at ALL levels, how long will it be before ISIS Suicide Bombers or Terrorists - who can more than match the wealth of the Drug Cartels and People Traffickers - start to bung a few hundred thousand to the these corrupt Mexican Authorities, or the Drug Cartels and People Traffickers themselves, and start to FREELY enter the USA by these many and diverse routes?

Trump is not an idiot. Nor is he xenophobic or racist.

He is correct.

[DemolitionRed]

A lot of very stirred up emotions going on there bobnot.

[bitontheslide]

Trump is controversial, there is no doubt about it, but sometimes difficult subjects need to be addressed and talked about full on rather than hiding behind political correctness. It gets people talking and exploring all options. It doesn't mean they will end up being implemented in the way that Trump is proposing.

The president can't do anything without support in congress and a backroom staff that also signs up to his policies, so it needs a great deal of support to get any traction at all. All that assumes that he actually becomes president, which although possible, cannot be assumed as given.

The bottom line is that he would need significant support to achieve what he wants, and if it becomes a reality it will be because he has the overwhelming support of the American people.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

A lot of very stirred up emotions going on there bobnot.

Indeed. I think it was the official announcement that if you needed assistance from security to remove somebody near you that the thing to do was to raise a Trump Placard and chant "Trump Trump Trump" that confirmed it as an idiotfest for me.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

But their 'merchandise' has a hell of a lot to do with damaging the US economy.

America is in the grip of a devastating drug problem and collosal sums of money are being spent on Police, Security, Judicial, Prison, and Medical Services, by way of:

'Policing' the border.
Detecting the hundreds of thousands of criminals who work in the drug trade within America once those drugs are successfully smuggled by the Mexicans over or under the border.
Dealing with the thousands of violent crimes and murders which are 'Drug Related'
Maintaining the Penal Institutions where the above are sent when caught - which is the minority, as most are not caught.

The most severe damage which the drug cartels are responsible for causing to the USA though, is that inflicted upon the poorest and most vulnerable of its citizens who make up the largest group of users, and once addicted ALL hope of bettering their lives is gone - no matter how slim a chance they had of doing so anyway.

Trump is correct in what he says - even though he should have chosen his way of expressing what he says more wisely - and Mexicans ARE a MAJOR problem to the USA's Economy and Security.

The Drug Trade and People Trafficking are multi Billion Dollar industries, and wherever there are such huge amounts of money there is ALWAYS Goverment corruption, and some corrupt Mexicans in positions of authority are making huge sums from their corruption - from Mexican Politicians who are illicitly working FOR the Drug Cartels, to Immigration Agents and Border Guards who are assisting the Drug Smugglers and People Traffickers to 'smuggle' their 'merchandise' into the USA.

There are well documented cases of such Mexican Authorities offering valid US identification for sale, including US Passports and Social Security Numbers, and of Border Guards actually assisting illegal entry into the US by advising the 'Smugglers' and 'turning a blind eye'.

The $64,000 Dollar Question is this T.S.:

With such types of corruption among the Mexican Authorities at ALL levels, how long will it be before ISIS Suicide Bombers or Terrorists - who can more than match the wealth of the Drug Cartels and People Traffickers - start to bung a few hundred thousand to the these corrupt Mexican Authorities, or the Drug Cartels and People Traffickers themselves, and start to FREELY enter the USA by these many and diverse routes?

Trump is not an idiot. Nor is he xenophobic or racist.

He is correct.

But Trump hasnt only talked about tightening borders, he's talked specifically about targeting and deporting Mexican families and individual economic migrants who have lived there for decades. That reveals his attitudes for exactly what they are. Trying to link or liken all Mexican migrants into the US to drugs or cartels is just as offensive and even more ridiculous than branding all Muslims terrorists. The HUGE majority of Mexicans living in the United States are normal working families, often doing the jobs that US citizens do not want for less money and with zero employment rights. Several US economists have pointed out the "ugly truth" that there are large sections of the US economy that would struggle to operate without cheap immigrant labour.

Tightening the borders may have the EFFECT of lessening the ability of drug cartels to operate, but it's perfectly clear that his major motivation is simply to keep Mexicans - ALL Mexicans - out. And not for the benefit of US security or economy. Just because it's his M.O., he lives in a fantasy world where the US can close borders and in effect become a massive "gated community", and be an entirely self-sufficient economic powerhouse where everyone lives happily ignoring the problems of the rest of the world.

[Kizzy]

[Alf]

3-1

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But Trump hasnt only talked about tightening borders, he's talked specifically about targeting and deporting Mexican families and individual economic migrants who have lived there for decades. That reveals his attitudes for exactly what they are. Trying to link or liken all Mexican migrants into the US to drugs or cartels is just as offensive and even more ridiculous than branding all Muslims terrorists. The HUGE majority of Mexicans living in the United States are normal working families, often doing the jobs that US citizens do not want for less money and with zero employment rights. Several US economists have pointed out the "ugly truth" that there are large sections of the US economy that would struggle to operate without cheap immigrant labour.

Tightening the borders may have the EFFECT of lessening the ability of drug cartels to operate, but it's perfectly clear that his major motivation is simply to keep Mexicans - ALL Mexicans - out. And not for the benefit of US security or economy. Just because it's his M.O., he lives in a fantasy world where the US can close borders and in effect become a massive "gated community", and be an entirely self-sufficient economic powerhouse where everyone lives happily ignoring the problems of the rest of the world.

An excellent response T.S. with some valid points - which is becoming so refreshing on here - but I was rather addressing the kernel of truth in what Trump rather ham-fistedly states.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Alf

3-1

LMFAO:

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Alf

3-1

[lostalex]

wow, so we went from a thread about Trump being compared to Hitler to a thread comparing Hillary to Hitler?

TiBB never fails to disappoint me with it's idiocracy...

Is anyone smart here? (don't answer that)

[Alf]

[QUOTE=lostalex;8559232]wow, so we went from a thread about Trump being compared to Hitler to a thread comparing Hillary to Hitler?QUOTE]
The truth of the story always comes out in the end.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Alf

The truth of the story always comes out in the end.

i agree. stupid keeps being stupid, on and on and on....

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by lostalex

wow, so we went from a thread about Trump being compared to Hitler to a thread comparing Hillary to Hitler?

TiBB never fails to disappoint me with it's idiocracy...

Is anyone smart here? (don't answer that)

one was serious one was a piss take of the first

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by lostalex

wow, so we went from a thread about Trump being compared to Hitler to a thread comparing Hillary to Hitler?

TiBB never fails to disappoint me with it's idiocracy...

Is anyone smart here? (don't answer that)

I think a few of us are passable but let's face it... No one all that smart would be here in the first place. They'd be doing literally anything else.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think a few of us are passable but let's face it... No one all that smart would be here in the first place. They'd be doing literally anything else.

Hey! when I joined it was this or 'farm town', it was a close run thing

[billy123]

Is anybody really still believing the storyline that Trump is feeding to the terminally stupid.
What you are watching is an expensive carefully constructed sequence of events designed to appeal to bigots,racists,idiots and people that have Nationaist/Patriotic tendencies.

Trump and his gimps have complete control of who attends his events if you think otherwise then LOL.


He said the event was cancelled after advice by police. The police quickly confirmed there was no contact from Trumps team and no advice of the sort was given.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6927336.html

And as for an ISIS member trying to join him on stage what a *****ing dumb ****. Ony a moron would actually swallow the diarrhoea that Trump is pumping down their throats.
I honestly cant imagine how backwards you would have to be to swallow Trumps diarrhoea.