[bitontheslide]

its not confirmed. At the moment its no more than words. Kaspersky has previously said he would do it, but is also known for spinning a story or two.

[Cal.]

They should let the FBI do it or whatever

There's nothing interesting on my phone anyway if they wanted to hack it

[T*]

People should NOT side with the FBI in this
It's disgusting and they're just going to use this to invade people's privacy. Vile.

[zakman440]

John Oliver pretty much nailed this topic in this segment last week:

https://www.facebook.com/LastWeekTon...8905877571756/

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Awful news.

It really bothers me how people can side with the FBI in this issue. We're lucky to have the freedoms and privacy we have yet people are willing to give it up for a false sense of security. People take their rights for granted and it's sickening, countless people have died for us to have the freedoms we do, to welcome news like this is to piss on their sacrifice.

Meh, countless people were forced to fight and sent to die by arseholes playing war games, it has **** all to do with the individuals decisions..

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by zakman440

John Oliver pretty much nailed this topic in this segment last week:

https://www.facebook.com/LastWeekTon...8905877571756/

omg yes he did.... I saw that episode... didn't think anyone else on here followed him

[MTVN]

If the FBI are doing it with their own means then I don't see much of a problem. They're no longer forcing Apple to let them in, they're just using their own technology to learn more about a piece of evidence that was discovered with a terrorist - is that so outrageous?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

If the FBI are doing it with their own means then I don't see much of a problem. They're no longer forcing Apple to let them in, they're just using their own technology to learn more about a piece of evidence that was discovered with a terrorist - is that so outrageous?

No its not, and if they do break into it, it will force Apple to make it even more secure, so that's a win for me

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Livia

"The FBI says it may have found a way to unlock the San Bernardino attacker's iPhone without Apple's assistance.

A court hearing with Apple scheduled for Tuesday has been postponed at the request of the US Justice Department (DOJ), Apple has confirmed.

The DOJ had ordered Apple to help unlock the phone used by San Bernardino gunman Rizwan Farook.

But Apple has continued to fight the order, saying it would set a "dangerous precedent".

Rizwan Farook and his wife killed 14 people in San Bernardino, California, last December before police fatally shot them."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35868322

Bad news for Apple and terrorists everywhere.

Brilliant!

[Shaun]

yeah you best hope all that googling of "dead babies" doesn't come back to bite you in the ass you right-wing bitch

(just remembered you don't have an iphone i don't think but oh well)

[Ninastar]

lmfao i'm not right wing

I just think that when someone commits a crime as awful as they have, they should have all rights taken away and that's including whether their phone gets searched legally or not.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

lmfao i'm not right wing

I just think that when someone commits a crime as awful as they have, they should have all rights taken away and that's including whether their phone gets searched legally or not.

What the FBI are saying though, is that because that 1 man did something wrong, everyone should have their rights to privacy taken away from them and that's completely playing in to the terrorists hands, reducing our hard earned freedoms.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

What the FBI are saying though, is that because that 1 man did something wrong, everyone should have their rights to privacy taken away from them and that's completely playing in to the terrorists hands, reducing our hard earned freedoms.

Very aptly put

[Ammi]

...yeah I have to say that I'm with Apple on this...the FBI may feel that they have justification because of whose phone they intend to hack, if they succeed in hacking it because of what Rizwan Farook did and who he is...but surely it has to be 'one rule for all', even in the case of crimes...would it be right if someone were completely innocent of a crime but there could be something on their phone that could be perceived as incriminating if construed in a particular way that prosecutors may slant it...

[GiRTh]

There are so many holes in the official account I applaud Apple for takng this stance.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The problem that Apple has is that if they built a mechanism that could get round the security of the devices, all their devices are then at risk. Its not something that can apply to only one device. Therefore, the security is then lost on the millions of Apple devices.

I think Apple were correct to say no.

Exactly. I'm so glad Apple is standing firm on this and that its keeping its customers informed of the potential security risks.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

lmfao i'm not right wing

I just think that when someone commits a crime as awful as they have, they should have all rights taken away and that's including whether their phone gets searched legally or not.

Apple said;

The government suggests this tool could only be used once, on one phone. But that’s simply not true. Once created, the technique could be used over and over again, on any number of devices. In the physical world, it would be the equivalent of a master key, capable of opening hundreds of millions of locks — from restaurants and banks to stores and homes. No reasonable person would find that acceptable.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

What the FBI are saying though, is that because that 1 man did something wrong, everyone should have their rights to privacy taken away from them and that's completely playing in to the terrorists hands, reducing our hard earned freedoms.

Yeah I get that and I'm not saying that someone innocent should lose their privacy rights, I was on about people who are guilty of murder/terrorism etc

All I'm saying is that I don't give a flying **** about what happens to a murderer/terrorist... They shouldn't have the 'right' to have their phone kept safe when there could easily be information on there that could harm a lot of people.

[MTVN]

In what way is going through a terrorists mobile phone worse than going through their computers and hard drive? The authorities have had the power to do that for years. You could even ask why is it worse than going through their homes and their personal belongings?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

In what way is going through a terrorists mobile phone worse than going through their computers and hard drive? The authorities have had the power to do that for years. You could even ask why is it worse than going through their homes and their personal belongings?

Its not of course. If the terrorists computer hard drive is protected by encryption and a password, they would have exactly the same issue.

Not only does what the FBI want to do compromise the Apple operating system, it sets a precedent; that they want the ability to bypass all encryption across the board. That places all individuals privacy at risk.

If a terrorist had written the information on a piece of paper and then burnt it, it would be lost, and accepted as such

The knock on aspects of this are huge.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by MTVN

If the FBI are doing it with their own means then I don't see much of a problem. They're no longer forcing Apple to let them in, they're just using their own technology to learn more about a piece of evidence that was discovered with a terrorist - is that so outrageous?

In what way is going through a terrorists mobile phone worse than going through their computers and hard drive? The authorities have had the power to do that for years. You could even ask why is it worse than going through their homes and their personal belongings?