[billy123]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't mind I feel I personally get value for money, I don't mind carrying you along with a few pensioners

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You lot should be happy that the BBC don't have adverts, our national channels do and we still have to pay a licence

Also, The Voice is on BBC so

I dont really watch much live tv BB is possibly the last thing i watched on live TV other than a bit of sport. Just about anything i watch has long since had the ads removed or is streamed from abroad. I certainly wouldn't get any value from getting a License.
I dont even have a TV aerial on the house.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I dont really watch much live tv BB is possibly the last thing i watched on live TV other than a bit of sport. Just about anything i watch has long since had the ads removed or is streamed from abroad. I certainly wouldn't get any value from getting a License.
I dont even have a TV aerial on the house.

Well, this is the way it's going now with internet and streaming channels taking over, that's why they want to change it to a "media licence" here rather than a TV licence

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, this is the way it's going now with internet and streaming channels taking over, that's why they want to change it to a "media licence" here rather than a TV licence

Yes they will change it but they still wont be able to enforce it. The BBC also now sell their shows all over the world and make an absolute fortune from them yet it has made no difference whatsoever to the price of the license which is weird.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Did you watch the Night Manager Smudgie?

No, but both son and daughter have raved about it..might have to give it a go on catch up.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Yes they will change it but they still wont be able to enforce it. The BBC also now sell their shows all over the world and make an absolute fortune from them yet it has made no difference whatsoever to the price of the license which is weird.

That's not surprising though

[arista]

Originally Posted by smudgie

No, but both son and daughter have raved about it..might have to give it a go on catch up.

Yes 10 Outta 10

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I dont really watch much live tv BB is possibly the last thing i watched on live TV other than a bit of sport. Just about anything i watch has long since had the ads removed or is streamed from abroad. I certainly wouldn't get any value from getting a License.
I dont even have a TV aerial on the house.

It's not really an issue of how often you watch it, as you could apply that to any tax ie some people have never signed on, some people have has no kids but still pay towards funding child benefit, licence payers fund the free licence for over 75's, 3.00 a week is nothing to give the elderly an advert free TV service

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by smudgie

No, but both son and daughter have raved about it..might have to give it a go on catch up.

Its very good deffo worth watching

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's not really an issue of how often you watch it, as you could apply that to any tax ie some people have never signed on, some people have has no kids but still pay towards funding child benefit, licence payers fund the free licence for over 75's, 3.00 a week is nothing to give the elderly an advert free TV service

But it isnt a tax it is a fee that you pay for a service. I dont use it.
BB and any football i watch arent on the BBC or if they are they are also available on multiple other channels around the world via the internet.

I dont watch any live broadcasts that the BBC supply and i dont remember the last time i listened to any of their radio stations so dont need to pay.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bobnot

But it isnt a tax it is a fee that you pay for a service. I dont use it. BB and any football i watch arent on the BBC or if they are they are also available on multiple other channels around the world via the internet.

So basically you are all right Jack, its a fee or an indirect tax and it funds a free licence for poor housebound Ethel with arthritic hips who can't afford broadband and has never heard of netfix..3.00 a week Bob, how can you be so cruel

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So basically you are all right Jack, its a fee or an indirect tax and it funds a free licence for poor housebound Ethel with arthritic hips who can't afford broadband and has never heard of netfix..3.00 a week Bob, how can you be so cruel

Ethel has already proven capable of rustling up a few quid a week when she needs to
But really its not compulsory to pay it if you dont use it so i dont no wrongdoing involved.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Ethel has already proven capable of rustling up a few quid a week when she needs to
But really its not compulsory to pay it if you dont use it so i dont no wrongdoing involved.

Maybe Ethel is running a FB lottery

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's not really an issue of how often you watch it, as you could apply that to any tax ie some people have never signed on, some people have has no kids but still pay towards funding child benefit, licence payers fund the free licence for over 75's, 3.00 a week is nothing to give the elderly an advert free TV service

So on top of what Bob shells out already in direct and indirect taxes, utilities his own personal charities and whatever other outgoings he has he should pay for this service he doesn't use as heaven forbid it should come out of their profits?

He would be an April fool to do that, he'd be an all day everyday fool

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So on top of what Bob shells out already in direct and indirect taxes, utilities his own personal charities and whatever other outgoings he has he should pay for this service he doesn't use as heaven forbid it should come out of their profits?

He would be an April fool to do that, he'd be an all day everyday fool

Er yes because we all pay taxes directly or indirectly and don't use all the services they pay for, why should this be any different? I find it interesting that some of the most vocal on social justice on this forum are swerving this tax even though it pays for free licences for the over 75s, the age may be raised or the free licence scrapped altogether as more and more people stop paying "because they don't use the service".

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Yes they will change it but they still wont be able to enforce it. The BBC also now sell their shows all over the world and make an absolute fortune from them yet it has made no difference whatsoever to the price of the license which is weird.

Because the BBC channels themselves supported by the license fee are a separate entity to BBC Worldwide which is also funded by advertising.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Er yes because we all pay taxes directly or indirectly and don't use all the services they pay for, why should this be any different? I find it interesting that some of the most vocal on social justice on this forum are swerving this tax even though it pays for free licences for the over 75s, the age may be raised or the free licence scrapped altogether as more and more people stop paying "because they don't use the service".

He doesn't mind paying tax no, but this is not a tax, nor is it a social justice issue.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/bills-and...v-licence-fee/

[DemolitionRed]

Having lived in America where every TV channel is interrupted with ten minutes of adverts every ten minutes, I'm glad we still have the BBC.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He doesn't mind paying tax no, but this is not a tax, nor is it a social justice issue.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/bills-and...v-licence-fee/

We don't know whether he minds or not and yes it is a social issue as free licences are funded are the licence payer and TV is the only company a lot of oldies have

[joeysteele]

I'd actually rather just have a pay per view for the BBC since all I watch on it is The Voice,which is now going to ITV thankfully.
Question Time which is well past its sell by date now too anyway.

Sky News is the main news channel I watch and the only BBC channel I watch most in the main is the BBC Parliament channel.

I find it obscene that someone really rich with a massive house and a TV in every room almost,pays exactly the same fee as someone in a one bedroomed flat with one TV,whether they are working or even on jobseekers allowance only.

I also think, especially as to news programming now,the BBC has gone down rapidly as to keeping debate going and on track and also in their reporting of major events too.

Wimbledon I will watch on the BBC and its coverage there used to be brilliant, however even that has gone down the drain and has become more a talking shop on the BBC now.

No I would happily see the licence got rid of completely it is far from worth it now and fine when there were only about 5 channels but a ridiculous thing to have in the multi channel age we are in now.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The Voice,which is now going to ITV thankfully.

They will destroy it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We don't know whether he minds or not and yes it is a social issue as free licences are funded are the licence payer and TV is the only company a lot of oldies have

Seeing as that is what funds essential services not the BBC licence fee, he wouldn't be much of a social justice advocate if he did * personally speaking.

BBC UK made almost £53 million in profit in 3014/15 so please don't be worrying that Bobs failure to use a service he doesn't require will prevent gladys watching Eastenders....it won't.

I never use trains, have I to buy a ticket occasionally so Arriva can afford their concessions?


http://www.bbcworldwide.com/annual-r...view-2015.aspx

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I haven't paid Nonce tax for 20 odd years and withdrew implied right of access to the TV licensing bods years ago meaning they arent allowed to step foot on my property or knock on the door. They dont even send letters anymore.

Ooh how do I do this? I don't pay it either and its a pain in the arse getting visits every few weeks by someone who reckons I absolutely have to let them inside my house..arguing the same point over and over is annoying

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Seeing as that is what funds essential services not the BBC licence fee, he wouldn't be much of a social justice advocate if he did * personally speaking.

BBC UK made almost £53 million in profit in 3014/15 so please don't be worrying that Bobs failure to use a service he doesn't require will prevent gladys watching Eastenders....it won't.

I never use trains, have I to buy a ticket occasionally so Arriva can afford their concessions?

No because you are not legally bound to buy a train ticket. Realistically speaking who do you think will lose out if public funding continues to drop?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No because you are not legally bound to buy a train ticket. Realistically speaking who do you think will lose out if public funding continues to drop?

I don't think you are actually legally bound to pay for a tv license either...only time you get took to court is if you sign something the tv license people bring round with them. So..doesn't this mean you are only 'bound' once you sign the disclaimer to say they can prosecute you?

[Vicky.]

Anyway, I will never see TV license the same as the likes of taxes. I stopped paying mine once I realised it was being used to hide the actions (and pay ridiculous amounts to) paedophiles...step too far tbh. Plus I never watch any of their stuff anyway

I didn't pay it for ages,. then decided I may aswell...then all the paedo stuff came out so went back to not paying