[bots]

The fact that there are nukes in the world makes them open to abuse if they find their way into the wrong hands.

People WILL do anything if the money is right, and something that ISIS have more than any previous terrorist group is money, and plenty of it.

Being aware that the possibility exists for weapons to fall into the wrong hands, is not scaremongering. It's highlighting a potential problem that we should be monitoring very closely

Does that extend to removing fundamental rights of individuals? I don't think so. We should protect our fundamental rights, using due process to track down those that would seek to harm us.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The fact that there are nukes in the world makes them open to abuse if they find their way into the wrong hands.

People WILL do anything if the money is right, and something that ISIS have more than any previous terrorist group is money, and plenty of it.

Being aware that the possibility exists for weapons to fall into the wrong hands, is not scaremongering. It's highlighting a potential problem that we should be monitoring very closely

Does that extend to removing fundamental rights of individuals? I don't think so. We should protect our fundamental rights, using due process to track down those that would seek to harm us.

Yes and it's simply naive to think anything else

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes and it's simply naive to think anything else

Let's not forget the dodgy dealings of Mark Thatcher while his mother was PM. He supplied weapons illegally to support an uprising in a foreign country - He also did a dodgy deal that allegedly netted him 10 million quid (and it was signed off by his mother)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ma...r-1441851.html

Corruption is everywhere!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Let's not forget the dodgy dealings of Mark Thatcher while his mother was PM. He supplied weapons illegally to support an uprising in a foreign country - He also did a dodgy deal that allegedly netted him 10 million quid (and it was signed off by his mother)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ma...r-1441851.html

Corruption is everywhere!

Forgot about that!

[DemolitionRed]

We were warned weeks ago that Obama may just stoop to this nonsense. The next thing on from this is about how we are all at risk of a nuclear attack if we leave the EU. Weeks ago I said, if he Obama does this, as predicted, I'd be voting out of the EU.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The fact that there are nukes in the world makes them open to abuse if they find their way into the wrong hands.

People WILL do anything if the money is right, and something that ISIS have more than any previous terrorist group is money, and plenty of it.

Being aware that the possibility exists for weapons to fall into the wrong hands, is not scaremongering. It's highlighting a potential problem that we should be monitoring very closely

Does that extend to removing fundamental rights of individuals? I don't think so. We should protect our fundamental rights, using due process to track down those that would seek to harm us.

Well it's not a realistic scenario, We basically destabilised the Middle East on a lie that Iraq had WMDs. If there's even a chance of IS getting nuclear capabilities then they would be slaughtered without pause.

It's just a stupid scenairio to justify the invasion of everyone's privacy and one that would never happen outside of 24. Arista thinks it's likely that IS will get their hands on a nuke, plan to plant it in America and then **** it all up by leaving a phone with all the information to stop it from happening lying about for the FBI to get their hands on.

The only reason why the FBI wants to access that phone is so that they can set a precedent to invade anyone's privacy as long as they justify it using the T-word. Anyone defending the FBI's actions are the ones who are TRULY naive.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

We were warned weeks ago that Obama may just stoop to this nonsense. The next thing on from this is about how we are all at risk of a nuclear attack if we leave the EU. Weeks ago I said, if he Obama does this, as predicted, I'd be voting out of the EU.

Who warned us?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Who warned us?

It was fairly widely broadcast a few weeks back. Obama has supposedly given millions of dollars towards the remain in campaign and it was suggested that Obama would speak out to the Brits in the 'project fear' campaign, which is what we are witnessing here.

http://www.politico.eu/article/david...ain-leaves-eu/

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...m-intervention

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

It was fairly widely broadcast a few weeks back. Obama has supposedly given millions of dollars towards the remain in campaign and it was suggested that Obama would speak out to the Brits in the 'project fear' campaign, which is what we are witnessing here.

http://www.politico.eu/article/david...ain-leaves-eu/

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...m-intervention

Oh the out campaign warned us? It's an atomic summit, it would be a bit remiss not to mention the possibility of terrorism and ISIS wouldn't it?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well it's not a realistic scenario, We basically destabilised the Middle East on a lie that Iraq had WMDs. If there's even a chance of IS getting nuclear capabilities then they would be slaughtered without pause.

It's just a stupid scenairio to justify the invasion of everyone's privacy and one that would never happen outside of 24. Arista thinks it's likely that IS will get their hands on a nuke, plan to plant it in America and then **** it all up by leaving a phone with all the information to stop it from happening lying about for the FBI to get their hands on.

The only reason why the FBI wants to access that phone is so that they can set a precedent to invade anyone's privacy as long as they justify it using the T-word. Anyone defending the FBI's actions are the ones who are TRULY naive.

In your humble opinion

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Oh the out campaign warned us? It's an atomic summit, it would be a bit remiss not to mention the possibility of terrorism and ISIS wouldn't it?

Yes you would, especially when the TTIP trade treaty is structured and reliant on the survival of the EU.

Nice try America but I for one am not convinced.