[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

Trump isn't as extreme as ted cruz. Trump will move slightly more to the middle if he wins. He doesn't advocate any social security cuts, he wants to put more into mental health. He wants to increase tariffs on the Chinese dumping. He doesn't take a penny from corporations, none these are not far right policies. He didn't support the illegal Iraqi invasion, Clinton did. Clinton is a corporate lackey with dozens of backers, she will simply oversee the massive worldwide corporate takeover with the TTIB

People will see Trump as the more extreme of the two though due to the controversy around him. Despite being as bad, Cruz is seen as the lesser of two evils.

Either way, they'll both get destroyed by the Democrats, it's just that Trump will be easier to annihilate.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People will see Trump as the more extreme of the two though due to the controversy around him. Despite being as bad, Cruz is seen as the lesser of two evils.

Either way, they'll both get destroyed by the Democrats, it's just that Trump will be easier to annihilate.

I think cruz will give Hillary a close challenge..I think Bernie would beat both.
Clinton is evil, a very divisive , corrupt , corporate lackey and warwonger. I don't even trust her with the health insurance. No doubt Ill be told im being sexist again. ha. how sexist is it to bomb a country illegally on a pack of lies, lest we forget over a million innocents died and over half a million of them were women. that's what I call real politik sexism. a damn sight worse than any other version. She is also profoundly sexist herself getting madeleine allbright to say, any woman who doesn't back a woman goes to hell. Now that is offensive and sexist but in the current climate of double standards she gets away with it.

as for trump. lets break this down what is the craziest thing he has said?

1) hes been demanding we raise tariffs on Chinese steel for a decade. right or wrong? RIGHT
2) Hes the ONLY candidate who has discussed the 10 million+ illegal immigrants coming in from mexico? there is no border there is no defence, do a lot of them bring massive crime and drugs. YES. Not all, but a lot and saying they should have their paperwork checked and brought in legally is RIGHT
3) the Jihadi threat. We in Europe has 1000s of jihadis amongst us. we have open borders, the Schengen agreement means these terrorists are not even checked, we don't even have competent intelligence in many EU nations, we have had infinitely more terrorist attacks than America as a result of our insane policies and insane leadership. Trump has called for a temporary shutdown on muslims entering the usa until the government can work out what the hell is going on. Ok totally unreasonable an a soundbite to win the far right, everyone knows that. BUT massively increasing our checks on people entering the country he is 100% RIGHT again. The 1st rule of government is to protect the people.

4) Increase military funding to wipe out ISIS and stopping arming rebels we don't know , RIGHT.

5) Refusing corporate handouts for his election campaign, like Bernie, 100% RIGHT

6) raising taxes on the richest, RIGHT

7) Keeping social security as it is in line with inflation, RIGHT

8) Increase spending on mental health to counter violence and gun violence

9) Increase spending on the police and nati terrorism budget, RIGHT

Other candidates have simply buried their heads in the political sands whilst the whole world goes up in smoke

ok so whats he been wrong about?

He thinks obamacare should be replaced with a more efficient system,
sounds like a nightmare. No doubt with 40 odd million extra patients on the government programme you will have masses of waste and over burocracy and premiums are still too high and hurt the smaller businesses. again it would be interesting to actually hear these arguments instead of the utter nonsense weve heard on all sides about hands and trumps hair etc and hillarys false indignation. everyone is avoiding the issues.

He thinks the extra funding for mental health, police, anti terror and crime budgets will help reduce gun crime. But he supports the 2nd amendment fully and argues guns also help fight criminals and protect the good people. We are too smug on guns in Europe. I hate guns but whilst gun deaths are way lower in Europe as we always hear, the actual figures on violent crime , drug related theft are astonishingly higher in the UK and Europe. at 100ss of times the rate of the USA> reading between the lines, something we don't too because of our hysterical media, a vast number fo violent crimes, thefts, drug related crime are stopped by guns in America....so overall I think he is more WRONG ON THIS.

Abortion. he was hoodwinked there. he doesn't like abortion , who does? millions of babies terminated before they get a chance to live. Now what he was saying is he will tighten the laws around abortion and support people with other options. Of course ,rape , incest, health complications are exceptions. But he doesn't want to finance abortion, he wants to change the fact many parents, women especially feel rushed or pressured and without options on abortion and regret it afterwards.

The vast majority of abortions are down to the womans financial situation. So why not help with that? In many cases they feel they haven't got the finances to support a child. There are many other options such as fostering and adopting children. The radical feminists say its patronising to women to suggest they don't think it though etc That false outrage is offensive and damaging. we are talking sometimes about teenage girls, some with health, poor, drugs, alcoholic, mental health related issues or simply poorly educated. Isnt it sensible to support such women, with as much time and support as possible so they can look at and understand all options open to them and the father of their unborn child? Abortion has become far too populist imo hence why we have record numbers of late abortions. The feminists can say what they like about the womens choice to abort, but what about the womens right to not abort? the rights of the unborn child and the fathers too?

He said under pressure yes there must be punishment if a woman aborts a child illegally. Then he changed his mind and said the doctor would be charged if he aborted a baby outside of the laws. That IS the case in the UK and everywhere else? if you abort after 24 weeks, the doctor will be punished. so why the hysteria?. Abortion should be legal up to a point. But 24 weeks is obscene....millions of healthy babies are born before 24 weeks. I think the radical feminist take on this is horrific. Anyone who suggests anything to encourage fewer abortions and support parents and women into looking at all options is seen as woman hating? what a a pile of absolute nonsense.
saldy like most things with political correctness, all discussion dies along with millions of innocent unborn babies