[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

So what do you think the solution is Leather Trumpet ?

there sadly is no solution to superstition, the need for power in humans and poor learning in some countries. I do think that we in this country should not encourage islamic worship, schools or such things.

Indeed get religion out of all schools (and politics) and only cover it in a few history lessons

I t would also help if our leaders, like cameron, stopped paying spurious lipservice to religion just to get a few votes

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

My solution would be to leave them alone in their own countries so that their people don't resent us when they come here, or have a likely chance of resenting us when they come here.

That would not work unfortunately Mock.

The self-proclaimed undisputed aim of ALL Muslim extremists is to conquer the ENTIRE globe and install one great Caliphate.

To these insane bastards, even ordinary non-aggressive Muslims or the wrong 'type' of Muslims are targets and little better than non-Muslims or infidels - thus the slaying, raping, torture and abduction of other Muslims by these terrorists.

[arista]

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[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

as i have said before one must realise that islam is unreformed as a religion


christianity is and is reforming in front of us with women ministers, acceptance of homosexuality etc

yes its glacial at times but it is reforming, Islam isnt and as such is prone to far more extremism

Christianity is rightly shaving off some of its excess meat, but it was always a good set of rules and beliefs and principles overall fromt he start as Christ was a wonderful man and totally enlightened and revolutionary. You wont find many other people preaching about tolerance, peace, love, forgiveness, honour, respect, salvation, repentance and redemption thousands of years ago. Islam began centuries later and was light years behind in all these areas. In fact many muslims interpret Islam as offering no forgiveness within the quran. There are no infidels within Christ's teachings. This may be a more recent hardline interpretation I don't know but it seems to be widespread.

Christianity is way more progressive. But sometimes it is the secular people or atheists who need to be more progressive. issues like abortion will always be debated, to see millions of healthy babies killed before 24 weeks is unacceptable to many Christians still as it is to many millions of religious and non-religious people. The pro abortionists need to become more progressive themselves and realise millions of healthy children are a born many weeks before this termination limit.

In the end Europe and the Uk are nations massively built around Christian laws, values, beliefs and principles. The middle east is far more dominated by sharia law. After all these centuries the proof of the pudding is in the eating...Where would you rather live? Yes that's right 100% of you would rather live in the west.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

That would not work unfortunately Mock.

The self-proclaimed undisputed aim of ALL Muslim extremists is to conquer the ENTIRE globe and install one great Caliphate.

To these insane bastards, even ordinary non-aggressive Muslims or the wrong 'type' of Muslims are targets and little better than non-Muslims or infidels - thus the slaying, raping, torture and abduction of other Muslims by these terrorists.

I get what you're saying Kirk, but the way to stop these people getting sympathisers and thus joining groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS is to not attack these people's countries, therefore these terrorist organisations wouldn't have as many people in them and would be easier to stop if need be.

The way we operate at the minute is just gonna cause trouble within our own countries which have a lot of Muslims in them.

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

as i have said before one must realise that islam is unreformed as a religion


christianity is and is reforming in front of us with women ministers, acceptance of homosexuality etc

yes its glacial at times but it is reforming, Islam isnt and as such is prone to far more extremism

That is one of the basic differences. The Quran doesn't allow any changes to it, so the religion will remain static for as long as its practiced. Christianity doesn't have that type of limitation although some would like it if it did.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They want to practise a more radical form of Islam, taught by Wahhabi Imams, living under Sharia law, rejecting homosexuality, promoting the subservience of women, supporting jihad.

Multiculturalists are determined to distance Muslims from Islamic extremism, imagining it to be the acts of the alienated few.

But the reason we so seldom hear Imams and leaders in the Muslim Community speaking out against terrorists is that in truth, many are right behind them.

25% had sympathy for the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris. 20% have sympathy for the 7/7 suicide bombers. Over 100,000 Muslims in the UK have sympathy for terrorist acts. Many support a future attack on the very country which showed them tolerance, allowed them to practise their particular brand of hate, and gave them a home.
I have heard what Muslims really think and it is clear multiculturalism has never existed.

Through no fault of our inclusive culture, it is them and us. And British Muslims expect us to change our ways to fit in with them.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz45oyYmqHY

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

They want to practise a more radical form of Islam, taught by Wahhabi Imams, living under Sharia law, rejecting homosexuality, promoting the subservience of women, supporting jihad.

Multiculturalists are determined to distance Muslims from Islamic extremism, imagining it to be the acts of the alienated few.

But the reason we so seldom hear Imams and leaders in the Muslim Community speaking out against terrorists is that in truth, many are right behind them.

25% had sympathy for the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris. 20% have sympathy for the 7/7 suicide bombers. Over 100,000 Muslims in the UK have sympathy for terrorist acts. Many support a future attack on the very country which showed them tolerance, allowed them to practise their particular brand of hate, and gave them a home.
I have heard what Muslims really think and it is clear multiculturalism has never existed.

Through no fault of our inclusive culture, it is them and us. And British Muslims expect us to change our ways to fit in with them.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz45oyYmqHY

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