[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jason.

Meanwhilst Sam was a no trick pony bore

I don't claim he was the most entertaining and made the season

In fact Helen was more boring than Sam... woopie ****ing doo she got a gob so exciting yayyy best TV EVER. All she did was shout/argue terribly that's not entertainment

[Ross.]

Now Sam vs. Helen was not a debate I was expecting

[Pete.]

They both suck

[Jordan.]

Sam snatching victory from Dexter

[Black Dagger]

Snatching it makes it sound like Dexter had a chance against that big heap of nothingness.

[Dominic]

Sam being boring >>> Helen being godawful

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_

Snatching it makes it sound like Dexter had a chance against that big heap of nothingness.

Yeah it was entirely unsurprising that a ****ing dull ~attractive, nice~ male was crowned the winner by the clueless British public over someone who actually spoke in the series

[Jack_]

Jackie would've deserved to win more and that's saying something

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Brenda.

Sam being boring >>> Helen being godawful

This

[LukeB]

Helen is everything wrong with RTV and her winning really killed the show because apparently shouting/having an argument all the time/making people feel miserable is good tv. Big Brother isn't about arguments we have bloody Towie/MIC/Housewives shows for that. Arguments are only good when it's natural and not shoved down our throats and not all the bloody time.

[Daniel.]

So much tea in this thread

[Jordan.]

People thinking HM's deserve to win for being awful people is far more worrying/insulting than someone wanting a bore to win

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Jackie would've deserved to win more and that's saying something

She'd have been a top 3 winner!!!

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

People thinking HM's deserve to win for being awful people is far more worrying/insulting than someone wanting a bore to win

Tea

Helen being the prime example

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Helen is everything wrong with RTV and her winning really killed the show because apparently shouting/having an argument all the time/making people feel miserable is good tv. Big Brother isn't about arguments we have bloody Towie/MIC/Housewives shows for that. Arguments are only good when it's natural and not shoved down our throats and not all the bloody time.

BBUK was killed long before Helen won

AND HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS BEFORE SOMEONE PAYS ATTENTION:

NO ONE IS SAYING CONSTANT ARGUMENTS MAKES GOOD TV

[Jordan.]

But if someone doesn't argue they get labelled a bore or fence sitter

[Pete.]

Arguments succeed in BB if they aren't one sided/constant/forced/repetitive/manipulated/Helen

[Dominic]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Arguments succeed in BB if they aren't one sided/constant/forced/repetitive/manipulated/Helen

/Marq

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Jack_

BBUK was killed long before Helen won

AND HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS BEFORE SOMEONE PAYS ATTENTION:

NO ONE IS SAYING CONSTANT ARGUMENTS MAKES GOOD TV

The way I saw it

BBs move to C5/BB12 - Dying slightly but could be saved
BB13/14 - getting better but still dying
BB15 - final blow to it's head
BB16- dead/zombie big brother

I'm on about the producers because they do things to make arguments happen because thats what the public want to watch which infact it's not what we all want to see. Someone who doesn't argue would be classed as boring.

[Daniel.]

Sam was far more entertaining than Marc!

[Jason.]

BB died in 2007 and hasn't been the same ever since let's not kid ourselves here. The move to C5 was just the nail in the coffin.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

People thinking HM's deserve to win for being awful people is far more worrying/insulting than someone wanting a bore to win

How is it worrying or insulting? Big Brother isn't a morality competition, nor is it a charity, nor is it real life. It, like most other TV shows, is a form of escapism and light entertainment and none of the results have any impact on society whatsoever

The argument that 'rewarding' (I use that term loosely) someone with a win on Big Brother has any kind of cultural significance is just silly, it's trash television that is increasingly irrelevant and such results have no reflection on people's own values

I don't watch the show in search of a new best friend I can relate to or to watch nice people having a chat, I'd go to the pub with friends if I wanted that

[Pete.]

Big Brother isn't dead when CBB still is top quality

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Sam was far more entertaining than Marc!

I would agree to this because Marq was clearly approached to join BB because BB wanted him to be a dick/cause arguments/kill the fun.. probably paid him more for doing it. He wasn't doing natural things.

[Dominic]

Yeah no BB isnt dead